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**sigudian** · 05-28-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ifiwere1337

the 1.0 version of it works on a slim

sorry for offtopic

if i remember correctly it was not close as good as the 1.5 version, and i know it still does not use the extra ram... but hey i have hot-keys for changing timemachine firmwares. back on topic, anyone think a simple sdk will be released before the utopia project is released? (this is common in the commercial industry to sell more units etc.) Though i dont suspect one, it would persuade a lot of more people to install the utopia kernel the first day of release, as there would be initial homebrew to use with it.

**FaT3oYCG** · 06-04-2008, 05:30 AM

not for me to say but are you holdin the utopia project back?

is it because you want to implment it into the 4.00 firmware before sony can patch it out after your hard work?

or is it because the 4.00 firmware will be different to the other firmwares so you want to wait to patch it into that to save yourself work?

also keep up the hacking guys, hacking the firmware means sony has to update it, and while they do they add new things in, so keep up the good work

**zeroxorxdiexskater** · 06-05-2008, 06:07 PM

mannnn i cant wait for this thing to come out
i have slowed down on homebrew and hacking for the psp but i keep up on the news and have still heard little about this (u guys are really good at keeping secrets lol) but the day this comes out it is gonna be on my psp

eldiablov · 06-05-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FaT3oYCG

not for me to say but are you holdin the utopia project back?

is it because you want to implment it into the 4.00 firmware before sony can patch it out after your hard work?

The idea of Utopia is to be independent from Sony so the devs can continually update it how they see fit.

**FaT3oYCG** · 06-06-2008, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eldiablov

The idea of Utopia is to be independent from Sony so the devs can continually update it how they see fit.

is it just because they want to implement it into 4.00 when the cfw is made to p|ss sony off then?

**BigSanFrey** · 06-06-2008, 02:58 AM

I think they will wait for 4.00, or it isn't finished yet!
And, imagine if it was released 1 week after 4.00 was released (assuming the cfw was released in that short time)... how pissed off would Sony be??

**FaT3oYCG** · 06-06-2008, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSanFrey

I think they will wait for 4.00, or it isn't finished yet!
And, imagine if it was released 1 week after 4.00 was released (assuming the cfw was released in that short time)... how pissed off would Sony be??

that is exactly what i asked except for the unfinished part, but yeah it may be unfinished, they do sit on things and dont work on them, i dont blame them its not like they have to do it all they get is the pleasure of knowing that they created something that everyone can use.

i was going to ask this before aswell but i forgot to ask, did math tell people to learn how to and convert to the 3.xx kernel so it would be easier for them to get used to using the utopia kernel?

**Torch** · 06-06-2008, 07:51 AM

I was hoping it would be a complete custom firmware. But compatibility with UMDs is important hence its a kernel add on as of now. But I hope that in time it becomes a full CFW with its own GUI etc. and it should be able to load Sony libraries externally just like we run Windows games with WINE.

**Moose** · 06-06-2008, 07:53 AM

I don't wanna have to be messing around with a WINE-esque interface.

**sigudian** · 06-07-2008, 01:35 AM

i think it will be released when its done, not a moment before (hope),
maybe it will be released some days after its done (to build tention)

**xpack** · 06-20-2008, 04:00 PM

Now we know....

**tryagain277** · 06-20-2008, 04:31 PM

Only time will tell now...

**zeroxorxdiexskater** · 06-21-2008, 07:03 AM

wait. if we cant run umd's and sony stuff while in utopia that means that we will need to dualboot to be able to use those (timemachine?)

**Adiuvo** · 06-21-2008, 07:04 AM

Yes. To be honest I probably won't use it due to that (mainly the homebrew part).

eldiablov · 06-21-2008, 07:06 AM

I'll probably be using it, might make the scene more interesting again ...

**Torch** · 06-21-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zeroxorxdiexskater

wait. if we cant run umd's and sony stuff while in utopia that means that we will need to dualboot to be able to use those (timemachine?)

No I'm sure the firmware will be just like a normal CFW. Just that when you boot a Utopia homebrew, it will run with the Utopia kernel. Just like GAME150 folder homebrew runs in the 1.50 kernel.

**Matt93** · 06-21-2008, 08:51 AM

Well, I will probably put it on my second PSP. Lol, I got it for free from my friend who said it was "broken." Although how he managed to brick it on OFW will always be a mystery to me.

**Torch** · 06-21-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt93

Well, I will probably put it on my second PSP. Lol, I got it for free from my friend who said it was "broken." Although how he managed to brick it on OFW will always be a mystery to me.

If you didn't give it back, he isn't you "friend".

**ghostENVY** · 06-21-2008, 08:56 AM

I Just Hope That Someone like Innercy or a great Theme designer designs The XMB

**Matt93** · 06-21-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Torch

If you didn't give it back, he isn't you "friend".

Why? He already has another psp. The "broken" one was sitting in a cabinet for over a year, and was of no use to him. He already knows that I fixed it and he doesn't care, lol.

**FaT3oYCG** · 06-21-2008, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ghostENVY

I Just Hope That Someone like Innercy or a great Theme designer designs The XMB

they are not re designing an xmb, math directly said if you want to make your own shell to go on top then thats fine but they arent going to make one

**Mirzab14** · 06-21-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt93

Although how he managed to brick it on OFW will always be a mystery to me.

I bricked OFW before. Its possible but you have to do it at perfect timing. I was changing a PTF theme on 3.80 OFW, and when it told me Not shut off the PSP, I did exactly that. What happened was a semi-bricked PSP.

**Matt93** · 06-21-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirzab14

I bricked OFW before. Its possible but you have to do it at perfect timing. I was changing a PTF theme on 3.80 OFW, and when it told me Not shut off the PSP, I did exactly that. What happened was a semi-bricked PSP.

Yeah, but he full bricked it. Screen stayed black, light came on. Thats it.

**xpack** · 06-21-2008, 10:36 AM

Turn it off while updating can do just that. Hopefully by some miracle Ahman will reform IRShell to work around the Utopia Project

that would be great

**Moose** · 06-21-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xpack

Turn it off while updating can do just that. Hopefully by some miracle Ahman will reform IRShell to work around the Utopia Project

that would be great

Ahman abandoned iRShell a while back.

**xpack** · 06-21-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose Island

Ahman abandoned iRShell a while back.

Thats why I was talking about a "miracle"! But I'm sure with all the open opportunities this project is going to have, there will be A nice shell to come.

**Judas** · 06-22-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Moose Island

Ahman abandoned iRShell a while back.

He abandoned it several times if I remember correctly.

And now that Utopia is announced, who the **** cares? This is going to be useless for most of the scene. It can't even run our old homebrew. And I'm pretty sure there's going to be no way to run two kernels side by side. This project really disappointed me.

eldiablov · 06-22-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas

He abandoned it several times if I remember correctly.

And now that Utopia is announced, who the **** cares? This is going to be useless for most of the scene. It can't even run our old homebrew. And I'm pretty sure there's going to be no way to run two kernels side by side. This project really disappointed me.

It's going to interesting the majority of the developers ...

**Judas** · 06-22-2008, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eldiablov

It's going to interesting the majority of the developers ...

But, when the developers code for the new kernel, that means the users will have to install the new kernel in order to run the homebrew. And none of the users are going to install the new kernel if they can't run all of their old homebrew or ISOs.

**Bubbletune** · 06-22-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Judas

But, when the developers code for the new kernel, that means the users will have to install the new kernel in order to run the homebrew. And none of the users are going to install the new kernel if they can't run all of their old homebrew or ISOs.

... the Sony kernel will remain, Utopia will be a second kernel booted in the same way as for example the 1.50 kernel add-on does.
Read up about it before you immediatly start to say it's useless.

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06-07-2008, 01:35 AM	#190
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zeroxorxdiexskater Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 3.03OE-C Posts: 1,098 Trader Feedback: 0	wait. if we cant run umd's and sony stuff while in utopia that means that we will need to dualboot to be able to use those (timemachine?)

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