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**Xnod** · 03-03-2009, 05:27 AM

release the test/beta

**chrisp6825** · 03-03-2009, 04:39 PM

I think I'll release a test to like 5 people I guess. I don't see why not, and plus, it'll make them happy.
I don't really see the point in releasing a test/beta though.. Like, why not just release it as a demo to everyone and get even more feedback. But whatever.

I'll name it "Pokemon (Something)". I don't really know what to put in the (Something) part yet, but I did get a good suggestion : "Pokemon Origins" since it will be the first pokemon game remade for PSP.
But "Origins" makes me think of the origins of pokemon. What do you guys think?

edit
Actually, I think I might call it "Pokemon Islands", since that's related to the twist I'm using.

A quick image I put together. I'm pretty content with it.

**SpiderJames** · 03-03-2009, 06:31 PM

Pokemon Water Blue

**bob616** · 03-03-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp6825

I think I'll release a test to like 5 people I guess. I don't see why not, and plus, it'll make them happy.
I don't really see the point in releasing a test/beta though.. Like, why not just release it as a demo to everyone and get even more feedback. But whatever.

I'll name it "Pokemon (Something)". I don't really know what to put in the (Something) part yet, but I did get a good suggestion : "Pokemon Origins" since it will be the first pokemon game remade for PSP.
But "Origins" makes me think of the origins of pokemon. What do you guys think?

edit
Actually, I think I might call it "Pokemon Islands", since that's related to the twist I'm using.

A quick image I put together. I'm pretty content with it.

that actually sound pretty good.
and dont let these guys rush you to release a beta or demo. you should take your time.

seang5041 · 03-03-2009, 08:26 PM

Yeah release the demo. That way you get more feedback.

**chrisp6825** · 03-03-2009, 08:51 PM

Thanks, and no worries. I'm taking as much time as I want haha.
I'm pretty excited though, just to see what people will think of it when I'm done, er the demo or whatever.

I do hope that no one is expecting this to be a pokemon phenomenon, where everything is bigger and better than original pokemon games. I also don't want people thinking it's going to be exactly like a pokemon game. And I obviously don't want people expecting it to be anything less.

It's very similar, as close as I can get it, but I am adding/changing the things that I've always wanted in a pokemon game. And I'm not Game freak, so of course it's going to be a bit different.

The main difference is basically an extensive story line. Mini-quests, more interactivity, expansive multiplayer, you know. The good stuff.

**elite999** · 03-04-2009, 04:21 AM

Quote:

*TIP* Please release your game when it is whole. Do not fall into the same trap that I, and many others have fallen into. An unfinished game is like eating a cake before its finished.Eventually, we will have eaten so much of the cake, that when it is finished, there will barely be any of the cake left. SO, instead, what I would do, is follow in SOURCEs Footsteps. Let us eat the cake when you are all done, people will appreciate it more, MUCH more.

The above quote is a post by spartan on the cspsp forums and is see it makes sense and just to give the author of the game a tip...
well there be an online portion...and will you release the source with it?

**chrisp6825** · 03-04-2009, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elite999

The above quote is a post by spartan on the cspsp forums and is see it makes sense and just to give the author of the game a tip...
well there be an online portion...and will you release the source with it?

You didn't read the first post did you?
It's in PGE LUA, so even if I didn't want to release the source, I have to.
And yes, the full complete game will have an online portion.
Even more info is given at the first post.
Thanks.

**elite999** · 03-04-2009, 06:23 AM

thank you very much for this great legendary game...this game was my first choice to port it to the psp if i ever become a developer,my second choice was jagged alliance

**NickyP** · 03-04-2009, 10:41 PM

I have an idea for a possible feature.

How about customizable battle themes, on our end? You know, we convert a song to the appropriate file type, name it the appropriate name, and we then have our own songs for battles. It would match perfectly with this "customizing trend" you have going here.

Furthermore, I would be more than happy to test this(especially for multiplayer, have 2 other PSPs) and give you feedback. PM me if you wish.

Raichan · 03-05-2009, 01:35 AM

eeee i cant believe itll be done so soon :'D

Ive been playing ALOT of pokemon on my psp lately, and ive just wanted to play something fresh and new. >:3
Im reeeally excited ^__^

You must be really clever to do this o.o
I dont know the first thing to make an actually game.
xDDDD

+++ Pokemon Islands is an amazing name. :')

**chrisp6825** · 03-05-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyP

How about customizable battle themes, on our end?

This is a pretty good idea. I didn't think about it. It should be no problem. But for simplicity, should I just make it where you can open up the "ms0:/music" folder to select the file?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raichan

+++ Pokemon Islands is an amazing name. :')

Thanks Raichan! I'm glad you like the name. I'm sure you'll enjoy the game once it's finished.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickyP

Furthermore, I would be more than happy to test this(especially for multiplayer, have 2 other PSPs) and give you feedback.

This is good. I'll make sure to let you know when I'm ready to let anyone test, the thing is though, is the multi-player will have to wait a while.
The adhoc isn't in PGE yet (hopefully as soon as i need it though)
And the infrastructure will be a while also, not because of PGE, but because of other things.

**NickyP** · 03-05-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp6825

This is a pretty good idea. I didn't think about it. It should be no problem. But for simplicity, should I just make it where you can open up the "ms0:/music" folder to select the file?

Well, my personal suggestion is to make a subfolder in the games folder for custom battle music. Perhaps something like... "ms0:/PSP/GAME/(Pokemon Folder Name)/battlebgm". I say this only because lots of people put their personal mp3s in ms0:/music, so it would be much more organized for the player to select their custom battle themes if they were in their own folder, yes?

But of course, you're the dev here, so it's all on you.

**chrisp6825** · 03-05-2009, 08:20 PM

Oh ok I know what your saying, I just thought you meant something like playing their music in the battles. You mean custom battle music, not just any music.

By the way, I'm getting to the part of needing some background music and some sound effects. I kinda forgot about them. Would anyone be able to help at all with that? If not, I'm perfectly capable of creating my own music and sounds.

**NickyP** · 03-05-2009, 09:05 PM

You've probably never heard of it, but theres a program called BYOND which lets you make and host your own online games.

The reason I'm even mentioning this is because whenever you connect to a game server, you download all of its sound effects and other resource files. And I'm 100% positive there are Pokemon games using sound effects from the official game, so there's one place to get them. I'll see if I can't find any later on. (alternatively, try something like "pokemon gb sound effects" on google)

For music, google "galbadia hotel soundtracks". That website hosts practically every OST from every video game, including the GB Pokemon games.

**chrisp6825** · 03-05-2009, 09:49 PM

I was just hoping for some fan made stuff too.
Eventually, I'd like this game to not have any ripped content. But until then I'm obviously going to have to use ripped media.
Thanks for the info.

**NickyP** · 03-06-2009, 12:57 PM

How far would you say you are into development? I mean are you still working on the overall structure of things (menus, other systems), or do you have something semi-playable just lacking anything to do?

**cmbeke** · 03-06-2009, 08:10 PM

you could make it so you can use custom chars like from chara, think how you spell it, on psp right now, can send ideas and check spelling/site when my computer not in use. psp keyboard is too inefficent!!!

**chrisp6825** · 03-07-2009, 04:52 PM

Um, I'm pretty far into the game. I mean, I have pretty much the whole game's engine down. Menus are all done and just lacking minor things.
The main things that are keeping it from being playable is a story line and the ability to catch pokemon.

I have a story in mind, but not implemented into the game yet.
And you can "catch" wild pokemon, but if you catch over 6, it'll just disappear instead of going to the box, even though it says you caught it.

It's really not far at all from a playable demo release.

cmbeke : I don't know what chara is, I've never heard of it. But I am planning on letting people pick from a large amount of characters to choose from.

**cmbeke** · 03-07-2009, 07:02 PM

chara is actualy called charas-project (my mistake) which is a site where you can make character walk cycle sheets:

(made chars from charas-project and made combinded sheet with Charas.EX from site
havent made 10 posts yet)

**chrisp6825** · 03-08-2009, 04:49 PM

Oh. You mean this:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gam...efrlg/npcs.png
http://www.spriters-resource.com/gam...okeem/npcs.png

Yeah, I got a few people to choose from.

**cmbeke** · 03-08-2009, 05:14 PM

yeah like that, but still it would be nice if you implament a custom character ablity so people could make there own.

**chrisp6825** · 03-08-2009, 06:34 PM

I have another question..
Should I use the Sony OSK for text input throughout the game, or a custom OSK?

**bob616** · 03-08-2009, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp6825

I have another question..
Should I use the Sony OSK for text input throughout the game, or a custom OSK?

hmmm...
good question.
do you think you can make a better looking osk than the sony one?
if not then just use the sony osk.

**NickyP** · 03-08-2009, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp6825

I have another question..
Should I use the Sony OSK for text input throughout the game, or a custom OSK?

In my honest opinion, you can't go wrong using Sony's OSK.

**slasher101** · 03-09-2009, 12:38 AM

Yea it's your best bet, especially with Lua

**chrisp6825** · 03-09-2009, 10:27 PM

Ok, I'll use it.

Just a little update..
I'm in the process of learning the stat calculations and how the whole "Pokemon mathematics" work.
I have to make a library of all the pokemon with each one's base stats, type, growth-rate, index number, move-pool (including what they learn each level), evolution stages & levels, catch-rate, effort points & base exp, and descriptions...

Wow, that was a lot to list... but nothing compared to actually researching all that info..
Wish me luck guys, I'm guessing this is where all the other people that attempt to make a Pokemon game, quit..

**elite999** · 03-10-2009, 12:22 AM

don't even say the word quit...you are in a really far stage now...and i think that you will end this once and for all, and all psp fans will worship you

...and remember that in your hands lingers your fate.

but afterall it is your choice and thats just my opinion, good luck and god bless you...

**NickyP** · 03-10-2009, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp6825

I'm in the process of learning the stat calculations and how the whole "Pokemon mathematics" work.
I have to make a library of all the pokemon with each one's base stats, type, growth-rate, index number, move-pool (including what they learn each level), evolution stages & levels, catch-rate, effort points & base exp, and descriptions...

I'm more than positive there's indepth guides out there with exactly that kind of information. Try Serebii.net, that place should definately cover ingame stats.

**_-Tiger-_** · 03-10-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp6825

Ok, I'll use it.

Just a little update..
I'm in the process of learning the stat calculations and how the whole "Pokemon mathematics" work.
I have to make a library of all the pokemon with each one's base stats, type, growth-rate, index number, move-pool (including what they learn each level), evolution stages & levels, catch-rate, effort points & base exp, and descriptions...

Wow, that was a lot to list... but nothing compared to actually researching all that info..
Wish me luck guys, I'm guessing this is where all the other people that attempt to make a Pokemon game, quit..

If i find any of that info ill let u know.

03-03-2009, 04:39 PM	#32
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	I think I'll release a test to like 5 people I guess. I don't see why not, and plus, it'll make them happy. I don't really see the point in releasing a test/beta though.. Like, why not just release it as a demo to everyone and get even more feedback. But whatever. I'll name it "Pokemon (Something)". I don't really know what to put in the (Something) part yet, but I did get a good suggestion : "Pokemon Origins" since it will be the first pokemon game remade for PSP. But "Origins" makes me think of the origins of pokemon. What do you guys think? edit Actually, I think I might call it "Pokemon Islands", since that's related to the twist I'm using. A quick image I put together. I'm pretty content with it. Last edited by chrisp6825; 03-03-2009 at 06:55 PM..

03-04-2009, 10:41 PM	#40
NickyP OpenBOR Modder Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Nick Location: - Just Played: - Posts: 1,713 Trader Feedback: 0	I have an idea for a possible feature. How about customizable battle themes, on our end? You know, we convert a song to the appropriate file type, name it the appropriate name, and we then have our own songs for battles. It would match perfectly with this "customizing trend" you have going here. Furthermore, I would be more than happy to test this(especially for multiplayer, have 2 other PSPs) and give you feedback. PM me if you wish. __________________ My OpenBOR site. Check it out~!

03-05-2009, 09:05 PM	#45
NickyP OpenBOR Modder Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Nick Location: - Just Played: - Posts: 1,713 Trader Feedback: 0	You've probably never heard of it, but theres a program called BYOND which lets you make and host your own online games. The reason I'm even mentioning this is because whenever you connect to a game server, you download all of its sound effects and other resource files. And I'm 100% positive there are Pokemon games using sound effects from the official game, so there's one place to get them. I'll see if I can't find any later on. (alternatively, try something like "pokemon gb sound effects" on google) For music, google "galbadia hotel soundtracks". That website hosts practically every OST from every video game, including the GB Pokemon games. __________________ My OpenBOR site. Check it out~!

03-06-2009, 12:57 PM	#47
NickyP OpenBOR Modder Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: Nick Location: - Just Played: - Posts: 1,713 Trader Feedback: 0	How far would you say you are into development? I mean are you still working on the overall structure of things (menus, other systems), or do you have something semi-playable just lacking anything to do? __________________ My OpenBOR site. Check it out~!

03-06-2009, 08:10 PM	#48
cmbeke My Mood: Join Date: Jan 2008 Real First Name: Chris Location: Iowa Just Played: Brave Story: New Traveler Posts: 301 Trader Feedback: 0	custum chars you could make it so you can use custom chars like from chara, think how you spell it, on psp right now, can send ideas and check spelling/site when my computer not in use. psp keyboard is too inefficent!!!

03-03-2009, 05:27 AM	#31
Xnod Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waldorf Maryland Posts: 25 Trader Feedback: 0	release the test/beta

03-03-2009, 06:31 PM	#33
SpiderJames Enter Custom Title Join Date: Jul 2005 Real First Name: James Location: Chicago Just Played: MLB 09 the Show Posts: 4,435 Trader Feedback: 0	Pokemon Water Blue

03-03-2009, 08:26 PM	#35
seang5041 Join Date: Oct 2007 Real First Name: jj Location: LA Posts: 9 Trader Feedback: 0	Yeah release the demo. That way you get more feedback.

03-03-2009, 08:51 PM	#36
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	Thanks, and no worries. I'm taking as much time as I want haha. I'm pretty excited though, just to see what people will think of it when I'm done, er the demo or whatever. I do hope that no one is expecting this to be a pokemon phenomenon, where everything is bigger and better than original pokemon games. I also don't want people thinking it's going to be exactly like a pokemon game. And I obviously don't want people expecting it to be anything less. It's very similar, as close as I can get it, but I am adding/changing the things that I've always wanted in a pokemon game. And I'm not Game freak, so of course it's going to be a bit different. The main difference is basically an extensive story line. Mini-quests, more interactivity, expansive multiplayer, you know. The good stuff.

03-04-2009, 06:23 AM	#39
elite999 QJ's Satallite My Mood: Join Date: May 2008 Real First Name: Hassan Location: Black market Just Played: Monster Hunter Freedom U Posts: 2,868 Blog Entries: 6 Trader Feedback: 0	thank you very much for this great legendary game...this game was my first choice to port it to the psp if i ever become a developer,my second choice was jagged alliance

03-05-2009, 01:35 AM	#41
Raichan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Englandd! Posts: 2 Trader Feedback: 0	eeee i cant believe itll be done so soon :'D Ive been playing ALOT of pokemon on my psp lately, and ive just wanted to play something fresh and new. >:3 Im reeeally excited ^__^ You must be really clever to do this o.o I dont know the first thing to make an actually game. xDDDD +++ Pokemon Islands is an amazing name. :')

03-05-2009, 08:20 PM	#44
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	Oh ok I know what your saying, I just thought you meant something like playing their music in the battles. You mean custom battle music, not just any music. By the way, I'm getting to the part of needing some background music and some sound effects. I kinda forgot about them. Would anyone be able to help at all with that? If not, I'm perfectly capable of creating my own music and sounds.

03-05-2009, 09:49 PM	#46
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	I was just hoping for some fan made stuff too. Eventually, I'd like this game to not have any ripped content. But until then I'm obviously going to have to use ripped media. Thanks for the info.

03-07-2009, 04:52 PM	#49
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	Um, I'm pretty far into the game. I mean, I have pretty much the whole game's engine down. Menus are all done and just lacking minor things. The main things that are keeping it from being playable is a story line and the ability to catch pokemon. I have a story in mind, but not implemented into the game yet. And you can "catch" wild pokemon, but if you catch over 6, it'll just disappear instead of going to the box, even though it says you caught it. It's really not far at all from a playable demo release. cmbeke : I don't know what chara is, I've never heard of it. But I am planning on letting people pick from a large amount of characters to choose from.

03-07-2009, 07:02 PM	#50
cmbeke My Mood: Join Date: Jan 2008 Real First Name: Chris Location: Iowa Just Played: Brave Story: New Traveler Posts: 301 Trader Feedback: 0	chara is actualy called charas-project (my mistake) which is a site where you can make character walk cycle sheets: (made chars from charas-project and made combinded sheet with Charas.EX from site havent made 10 posts yet) Last edited by cmbeke; 03-07-2009 at 07:49 PM..

03-08-2009, 04:49 PM	#51
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	Oh. You mean this: http://www.spriters-resource.com/gam...efrlg/npcs.png http://www.spriters-resource.com/gam...okeem/npcs.png Yeah, I got a few people to choose from.

03-08-2009, 05:14 PM	#52
cmbeke My Mood: Join Date: Jan 2008 Real First Name: Chris Location: Iowa Just Played: Brave Story: New Traveler Posts: 301 Trader Feedback: 0	yeah like that, but still it would be nice if you implament a custom character ablity so people could make there own.

03-08-2009, 06:34 PM	#53
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	I have another question.. Should I use the Sony OSK for text input throughout the game, or a custom OSK?

03-09-2009, 12:38 AM	#56
slasher101 The Cake Is A LIE My Mood: Join Date: Oct 2008 Real First Name: Adam Location: Melbourne, Australia Just Played: Far Cry 2 Posts: 669 Blog Entries: 1 Trader Feedback: 0	Yea it's your best bet, especially with Lua

03-09-2009, 10:27 PM	#57
chrisp6825 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Everywhere Posts: 205 Trader Feedback: 0	Ok, I'll use it. Just a little update.. I'm in the process of learning the stat calculations and how the whole "Pokemon mathematics" work. I have to make a library of all the pokemon with each one's base stats, type, growth-rate, index number, move-pool (including what they learn each level), evolution stages & levels, catch-rate, effort points & base exp, and descriptions... Wow, that was a lot to list... but nothing compared to actually researching all that info.. Wish me luck guys, I'm guessing this is where all the other people that attempt to make a Pokemon game, quit..

03-10-2009, 12:22 AM	#58
elite999 QJ's Satallite My Mood: Join Date: May 2008 Real First Name: Hassan Location: Black market Just Played: Monster Hunter Freedom U Posts: 2,868 Blog Entries: 6 Trader Feedback: 0	don't even say the word quit...you are in a really far stage now...and i think that you will end this once and for all, and all psp fans will worship you...and remember that in your hands lingers your fate. but afterall it is your choice and thats just my opinion, good luck and god bless you...

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