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Myristate · 09-28-2006, 11:42 AM

I've been thinking about this, and since i don't know sh*t about coding things, i'd thought why not post it at QJ.

I'm sure there are guys here that also own a PDA besides a PSP, and maybe they've heard of this program, it's called TCPMP and its an open source videoplayer for PDA's.

With it u can just put any divx/xvid file on your memorycard and play it.
No matter what resolution apperently, because when i put a xvid avi file with lets say, 640x352(16:9) on my SD card, it just resizes it to fit the screen and plays fine.

I like this program, because i'm so sick and tired of re-encoding everything just to play on your handheld.
And this one doesn't require any re-encoding. (And i don't care about filesize of the avi's because i got a 4gb memorycard and i watch something once and then toss it away anyways)

So i thought maybe its possible use this program (since its open source) and make it work on the psp somehow. Because the PSP screen is much better to watch video on than a PDA screen.

Maybe someone here who knows more of these kind of things is willing to look into this idea and maybe use the TCPMP program code to make some sort of TCPSP version?

Of course i know there's the pmplayer that plays avi's on psp, but u still have to re-encode to pmp format.

Well, thats my idea, i hope someone here can do something with it.
If not, it was just an idea!

p.s

TCPMP site can be found here:
http://tcpmp.corecodec.org (currently offline)

But u can still download it here

**Freshmilk** · 09-28-2006, 11:50 AM

This might be possible, but even if it was it would a sort of bad idea, have you tried using homebrew to view an AVI file before? it sucks, there is no other way to put it. The framerate would by was to low for it to be any good....

sorry to disapoint, but i don't think this will happen. I may be wrong, so feel free to correct me on anything I've said.
*Shuffles into the firing line*

**MiG** · 09-28-2006, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freshmilk

This might be possible, but even if it was it would a sort of bad idea, have you tried using homebrew to view an AVI file before? it sucks, there is no other way to put it. The framerate would by was to low for it to be any good....

sorry to disapoint, but i don't think this will happen. I may be wrong, so feel free to correct me on anything I've said.
*Shuffles into the firing line*

haha my 200mhz phone could play DivX just fine, so the PSP has plently of potential for this...

Someone just needs to code it, and it would be 2 big of a project for me.

**FreePlay** · 09-28-2006, 12:43 PM

Is it open-source? I can't be arsed to investigate; homework to do. I know it works spectacularly well on my iPaq.

**Theknightinhell** · 09-28-2006, 01:44 PM

wtf are you talking about, Freshmilk, PSPlayerMT plays AVI files full speed..

**Moonchild** · 09-28-2006, 01:54 PM

I'll have a look at it.

**TheMysteriousThug** · 09-28-2006, 02:13 PM

That sound awesome. There would be resolution limitations most likely.

**Moonchild** · 09-28-2006, 02:19 PM

Hmm.. There's about 2500 files in there... No way am I going to port that :\

**FreePlay** · 09-28-2006, 03:17 PM

Heh. You might not have to change much. When I ported LPairs to the PSP, I only modified ~5 out of some 15 files, and for some of those it was just adding a line for an include (which could be done for large numbers of files relatively easily through scripting).

If anyone seriously wants to work on porting this, we could set up an SVN server and all that good stuff. It could be a neat project.

**bossmanuk** · 09-28-2006, 03:20 PM

This sounds like a job that Zx-81 could handle. Although he ports emulators for the PSP, surely this will follow the same principle?

**tor** · 09-28-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheKnightInHell

wtf are you talking about, Freshmilk, PSPlayerMT plays AVI files full speed..

Has to be the same size, or lower than the psp's resolution though. Plus alot of files just don't work.

**MiG** · 09-29-2006, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FreePlay

Heh. You might not have to change much. When I ported LPairs to the PSP, I only modified ~5 out of some 15 files, and for some of those it was just adding a line for an include (which could be done for large numbers of files relatively easily through scripting).

If anyone seriously wants to work on porting this, we could set up an SVN server and all that good stuff. It could be a neat project.

indeed, its a very versatile player, doesnt require much oomph neither..

I can help if nessecary.

MiG

Myristate · 09-29-2006, 04:18 AM

Thnx for all the reply's so far!

Now i don't know how they've managed to make it resize the video automaticly to fit your screen, but i know for sure that it works.

Like yesterday, i took an avi file with these specs:

Video : 308 Mb, 1024 Kbps, 23.976 fps, res. 624*352 (16:9), XVID
Audio : 41 Mb, 139 Kbps, 48000 Hz, 2 kan., 0x55 = Lame MP3

And i put it on my 4gb SD card, and watched it on my PDA perfectly!

How nice would it be just to grab any avi xvid file, put it on your mem.stick and just play it, without any re-encoding, on your sexy psp screen instead of pda.

**MiG** · 09-29-2006, 06:10 AM

Just had a look at the source for this, and most of this is based around the codecs, and i have no idea as to whether they need porting as well, as it is something that is wayy over my head..

The things i reckon need changing are the Player part and the Interface, you'll se what i mean when you open the VS2005 solution file up..

If your looking at the source it would help to have VS2005 installed, as it sorts out the projected quite nicely..

Be good to get a port of this up and running though.

**Exodus** · 09-29-2006, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreePlay

Heh. You might not have to change much. When I ported LPairs to the PSP, I only modified ~5 out of some 15 files, and for some of those it was just adding a line for an include (which could be done for large numbers of files relatively easily through scripting).

If anyone seriously wants to work on porting this, we could set up an SVN server and all that good stuff. It could be a neat project.

I'd help out if I can. We'd need to check in about codecs though, as they may have to be ported to the PSP, and we might have to swap some out with some pre-ported codecs...

**Freshmilk** · 09-30-2006, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheKnightInHell

wtf are you talking about, Freshmilk, PSPlayerMT plays AVI files full speed..

ummmmm... I didn't know that, sorry...

**Exodus** · 09-30-2006, 07:32 AM

Yes, but, PSPlayerMT has some compatibility issues, and I don't think it handles large files well.

Myristate · 10-01-2006, 04:51 PM

So, any of u guys think it could be done?

Is it possible to change the player and interface part?

**psp11** · 10-01-2006, 05:24 PM

It is definitely possible to change the interface. The player is the hard part. It depends how many files have to be changed to include psp specific functions and some codecs would have to be ported. Ill look at it and see how much would have to be done.

**UB3R-W4N-K0N0B1** · 10-01-2006, 05:29 PM

why not just port vlc? its open source and can handle ANYTHING!

**TheMysteriousThug** · 10-01-2006, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Exodus

Yes, but, PSPlayerMT has some compatibility issues, and I don't think it handles large files well.

Umm how big are we talking. Because I ran 175MB file just fine. WMV9 won't run. WMV8 runs for me though. And MPEG. I get a problem with XviD MPEG-4 though. Sound isssues and sometimes discoloration. Like it'll be gray in some parts. The dev of PSPlayerMT has said that it's being developed when he has free time. So it's not the most polished PSP homebrew. But when something runs most of the time it's great.

**UB3R-W4N-K0N0B1** · 10-01-2006, 05:52 PM

iw sh we could contact him... i want the source to PSPlayerMT!

**Exodus** · 10-01-2006, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTwilightKing

Umm how big are we talking. Because I ran 175MB file just fine. WMV9 won't run. WMV8 runs for me though. And MPEG. I get a problem with XviD MPEG-4 though. Sound isssues and sometimes discoloration. Like it'll be gray in some parts. The dev of PSPlayerMT has said that it's being developed when he has free time. So it's not the most polished PSP homebrew. But when something runs most of the time it's great.

Perhaps people believe its the large filesize imparing compatibility.

I haven't had too many problems...

Myristate · 10-02-2006, 06:14 AM

Quote:

why not just port vlc? its open source and can handle ANYTHING!

TCPMP is also open source... but if VLC could be ported, would be great to.
But i figured since TCPMP is already made for a portable device, and auto-resizes the resolution of the video's its maybe easier...?

**Moonchild** · 10-02-2006, 07:23 AM

VLC is built using dll plugins. So, no you can't port vlc with all the plugins..
But sure, change the source code so they're not built as dll's. Then it might be possible.

**sigudian** · 10-02-2006, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homer

VLC is built using dll plugins. So, no you can't port vlc with all the plugins..
But sure, change the source code so they're not built as dll's. Then it might be possible.

why not use the source code for linux, that should not build any DLL files, as linux normally do not use DLL

It would be so nice if anyone could port VLC because its light weigh, open source and it plays the raw-format of the files so it do not use any codec and plays all format (thats what my engineer bother in law said anyway) since i installed VLC on my computer i have not installed a codec more!

and the interface of VLC is really simple to.

**TheMysteriousThug** · 10-02-2006, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myristate

TCPMP is also open source... but if VLC could be ported, would be great to.
But i figured since TCPMP is already made for a portable device, and auto-resizes the resolution of the video's its maybe easier...?

Dude...that's awesome..does the quality hold up will it look jaggy at all?

**RunawayPrisoner** · 10-02-2006, 02:21 PM

Try watching a hi-res video on your PC and then resize it and see for yourself if the quality will be reduced or not. As for the raw format thingy, that means the file has to be raw or something, I'm not so sure but what not, I don't think it's possible to decode or decompress anything without knowing how to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong here, please. ):

**Train** · 10-02-2006, 02:58 PM

It would be neat to port this. I am working on some other projects right now, but some devs should deffiently look at this!

**TheMysteriousThug** · 10-03-2006, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunawayPrisoner

Try watching a hi-res video on your PC and then resize it and see for yourself if the quality will be reduced or not. As for the raw format thingy, that means the file has to be raw or something, I'm not so sure but what not, I don't think it's possible to decode or decompress anything without knowing how to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong here, please. ):

Umm...dude I have resized with VirtualDubMod. It was really jaggy up close. But I asked someone whose used it and he said the quality holds.

09-28-2006, 11:42 AM	#1
Myristate Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Trader Feedback: 0	Just an idea, maybe TCPMP on PSP is possible? I've been thinking about this, and since i don't know sh*t about coding things, i'd thought why not post it at QJ. I'm sure there are guys here that also own a PDA besides a PSP, and maybe they've heard of this program, it's called TCPMP and its an open source videoplayer for PDA's. With it u can just put any divx/xvid file on your memorycard and play it. No matter what resolution apperently, because when i put a xvid avi file with lets say, 640x352(16:9) on my SD card, it just resizes it to fit the screen and plays fine. I like this program, because i'm so sick and tired of re-encoding everything just to play on your handheld. And this one doesn't require any re-encoding. (And i don't care about filesize of the avi's because i got a 4gb memorycard and i watch something once and then toss it away anyways) So i thought maybe its possible use this program (since its open source) and make it work on the psp somehow. Because the PSP screen is much better to watch video on than a PDA screen. Maybe someone here who knows more of these kind of things is willing to look into this idea and maybe use the TCPMP program code to make some sort of TCPSP version? Of course i know there's the pmplayer that plays avi's on psp, but u still have to re-encode to pmp format. Well, thats my idea, i hope someone here can do something with it. If not, it was just an idea! p.s TCPMP site can be found here: http://tcpmp.corecodec.org (currently offline) But u can still download it here

09-28-2006, 11:50 AM	#2
Freshmilk Three Years Old Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ermmm... Pass? Posts: 2,239 Trader Feedback: 0	This might be possible, but even if it was it would a sort of bad idea, have you tried using homebrew to view an AVI file before? it sucks, there is no other way to put it. The framerate would by was to low for it to be any good.... sorry to disapoint, but i don't think this will happen. I may be wrong, so feel free to correct me on anything I've said. Shuffles into the firing line __________________ Click here to feed me a Rare Candy!

09-28-2006, 12:43 PM	#4
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	Is it open-source? I can't be arsed to investigate; homework to do. I know it works spectacularly well on my iPaq. __________________ [qj now fails.]

09-28-2006, 01:44 PM	#5
Theknightinhell Suicide Silence Theknightinhell Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,163 Trader Feedback: 0	wtf are you talking about, Freshmilk, PSPlayerMT plays AVI files full speed.. __________________

09-28-2006, 01:54 PM	#6
Moonchild AKA Homer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,779 Trader Feedback: 0	I'll have a look at it. __________________ Click Here if you want a Winamp Currently Playing Userbar like the one above.

09-28-2006, 02:13 PM	#7
TheMysteriousThug Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Fascination Street Posts: 7,215 Trader Feedback: 0	That sound awesome. There would be resolution limitations most likely. __________________ [SIZE=2][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=3][U][B]3 YEAR VETERAN[/B][/U][/SIZE][SIZE=3][FONT=Arial Black] [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE]Thanks to the following whose ever made me a sig/av. [U][I][FONT=Impact] [/FONT][/I][/U]

09-28-2006, 02:19 PM	#8
Moonchild AKA Homer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,779 Trader Feedback: 0	Hmm.. There's about 2500 files in there... No way am I going to port that :\ __________________ Click Here if you want a Winamp Currently Playing Userbar like the one above.

09-28-2006, 03:17 PM	#9
FreePlay Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: h0000000rj Posts: 12,858 Trader Feedback: 0	Heh. You might not have to change much. When I ported LPairs to the PSP, I only modified ~5 out of some 15 files, and for some of those it was just adding a line for an include (which could be done for large numbers of files relatively easily through scripting). If anyone seriously wants to work on porting this, we could set up an SVN server and all that good stuff. It could be a neat project. __________________ [qj now fails.]

09-28-2006, 03:20 PM	#10
bossmanuk Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: England Posts: 1,970 Trader Feedback: 0	This sounds like a job that Zx-81 could handle. Although he ports emulators for the PSP, surely this will follow the same principle? __________________ [IMG]http://i26.tinypic.com/minfc3.jpg[/IMG]

09-29-2006, 04:18 AM	#13
Myristate Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Trader Feedback: 0	Thnx for all the reply's so far! Now i don't know how they've managed to make it resize the video automaticly to fit your screen, but i know for sure that it works. Like yesterday, i took an avi file with these specs: Video : 308 Mb, 1024 Kbps, 23.976 fps, res. 624*352 (16:9), XVID Audio : 41 Mb, 139 Kbps, 48000 Hz, 2 kan., 0x55 = Lame MP3 And i put it on my 4gb SD card, and watched it on my PDA perfectly! How nice would it be just to grab any avi xvid file, put it on your mem.stick and just play it, without any re-encoding, on your sexy psp screen instead of pda.

09-29-2006, 06:10 AM	#14
MiG Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK Posts: 499 Trader Feedback: 0	Just had a look at the source for this, and most of this is based around the codecs, and i have no idea as to whether they need porting as well, as it is something that is wayy over my head.. The things i reckon need changing are the Player part and the Interface, you'll se what i mean when you open the VS2005 solution file up.. If your looking at the source it would help to have VS2005 installed, as it sorts out the projected quite nicely.. Be good to get a port of this up and running though.

09-30-2006, 07:32 AM	#17
Exodus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: East Coast Posts: 361 Trader Feedback: 0	Yes, but, PSPlayerMT has some compatibility issues, and I don't think it handles large files well.

10-01-2006, 04:51 PM	#18
Myristate Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 17 Trader Feedback: 0	So, any of u guys think it could be done? Is it possible to change the player and interface part?

10-01-2006, 05:24 PM	#19
psp11 X shoppy X Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: BEHIND YOU!! Posts: 1,061 Trader Feedback: 0	It is definitely possible to change the interface. The player is the hard part. It depends how many files have to be changed to include psp specific functions and some codecs would have to be ported. Ill look at it and see how much would have to be done. __________________ [url=http://xs.to][img]http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07106/wmnp8z.png[/img][/url] What's a recovery.elf [QUOTE=iball] He's the one that fixes Santa's sleigh when it breaks down[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Deturbanator]why are we allowed to see the whole flesh and being of the boob but we MUST blur out the tit?[/QUOTE] [PRE][B]sg57 i love you for turning on the light of homebrew when i was in the darkness of sony[/b][/pre]

10-01-2006, 05:29 PM	#20
UB3R-W4N-K0N0B1 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121 Trader Feedback: 0	why not just port vlc? its open source and can handle ANYTHING!

10-01-2006, 05:52 PM	#22
UB3R-W4N-K0N0B1 Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 121 Trader Feedback: 0	iw sh we could contact him... i want the source to PSPlayerMT!

10-02-2006, 07:23 AM	#25
Moonchild AKA Homer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,779 Trader Feedback: 0	VLC is built using dll plugins. So, no you can't port vlc with all the plugins.. But sure, change the source code so they're not built as dll's. Then it might be possible. __________________ Click Here if you want a Winamp Currently Playing Userbar like the one above.

10-02-2006, 02:21 PM	#28
RunawayPrisoner Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 1,529 Trader Feedback: 0	Try watching a hi-res video on your PC and then resize it and see for yourself if the quality will be reduced or not. As for the raw format thingy, that means the file has to be raw or something, I'm not so sure but what not, I don't think it's possible to decode or decompress anything without knowing how to do it. Correct me if I'm wrong here, please. ):

10-02-2006, 02:58 PM	#29
Train 2335 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,187 Trader Feedback: 0	It would be neat to port this. I am working on some other projects right now, but some devs should deffiently look at this!

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Just an idea, maybe TCPMP on PSP is possible?