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Old 01-06-2007, 12:50 PM   #1
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Is it possible that Sony purposely releases new firmwares so that we work hard to crack them? I mean, if you think about it, the fact that people have to work hard to keep everyone able to play homebrew and customize their PSP's may be what has kept the PSP scene alive and going strong for so long. I think that this may be what Sony is doing because they really have no other reason for releasing new security in firmwares. If there were no more firmware updates to crack, the psp homebrew scene might slowly die off. I dont know....what are everyone elses thoughts on this.
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Yeah probably. I could see Sony doing that. They are complete idiots afterall. You know because I ***** about them all the time, they banned me from the Playstation forums even though I'm not a member? Also, they let people release homebrew on the Playstation forums so its very likely.
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If they didn't release new firmwares then there would be emulators/homebrew/etc. for everyone, and that's something that Sony doesn't want. If they allowed Nintendo's consoles to be openly emulated they would be in a lot more trouble than they already are, same goes for everything else that's already been emulated. If anything the PSP is slowing down because people can't find homebrew-ready PSPs as easily anymore...
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If they didn't release new firmwares then there would be emulators/homebrew/etc. for everyone, and that's something that Sony doesn't want. If they allowed Nintendo's consoles to be openly emulated they would be in a lot more trouble than they already are, same goes for everything else that's already been emulated. If anything the PSP is slowing down because people can't find homebrew-ready PSPs as easily anymore...
Yeah they are shooting themselves in the foot.
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You know, I think they do it so that hackers will improve the PSP. Popstation will prove to be a prime example. They release it half a..ed an hope that the homebrew scene will fix it. They could not figure out the disc swap so they put it out there for us to figure it out. Once we figure it out they change the code up a bit and release it as thier own.
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You know, I think they do it so that hackers will improve the PSP. Popstation will prove to be a prime example. They release it half a..ed an hope that the homebrew scene will fix it. They could not figure out the disc swap so they put it out there for us to figure it out. Once we figure it out they change the code up a bit and release it as thier own.
I'm pretty sure they could figure out the disc swap thing, there are just no games on the Playstation Store for it. I have a few ideas for it that I could try out but I'd need to have the source code of the emulator for it.
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If they didn't release new firmwares then there would be emulators/homebrew/etc. for everyone, and that's something that Sony doesn't want. If they allowed Nintendo's consoles to be openly emulated they would be in a lot more trouble than they already are, same goes for everything else that's already been emulated. If anything the PSP is slowing down because people can't find homebrew-ready PSPs as easily anymore...
you can emulate more on a PC than you can on a psp, all you gotta do is look up nes or snes or wutever emulator you want and i bet there is one for PC...or even linux and mac i dont think nintendo cares or any console maker for that matter
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1 thing wrong with your theory...

the amount of people who actually use homebrew is not suffiecient enough to support that theory of yours if it was true even though it isnt....
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you can emulate more on a PC than you can on a psp, all you gotta do is look up nes or snes or wutever emulator you want and i bet there is one for PC...or even linux and mac i dont think nintendo cares or any console maker for that matter
Well, not true. Nintendo probably DO care but they can't sue the developers for making them as they are legal. Also, they can't do anything about PC emu's because they can't exactly sue the makers of PC's because they could be used for emulators. But they can put their biggest rival back an even bigger step than the PS3 put them back by threatening legal action if Sony gave up and stopped making firmware updates and kernel mode was accessible in homebrew on 3.03.
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1 thing wrong with your theory...

the amount of people who actually use homebrew is not suffiecient enough to support that theory of yours if it was true even though it isnt....
If that were true then why are Sony making stupid excuses for firmware updates?

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you can emulate more on a PC than you can on a psp, all you gotta do is look up nes or snes or wutever emulator you want and i bet there is one for PC...or even linux and mac i dont think nintendo cares or any console maker for that matter
Correct, but there isn't a single manufacturer for PCs, and the parts that make them up are so incredibly varied it's impossible to prevent it. But if something is made on the PSP that helps pirate another companies work, there's only one person to blame for letting it happen. That doesn't mean that Nintendo etc. actually cares about the PSP and it's software, but it's better for Sony's health to avoid getting into trouble with them in the first place.
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If that were true then why are Sony making stupid excuses for firmware updates?
A very small amount of psp users know about homebrew.
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A very small amount of psp users know about homebrew.
That was the exact statement I was counterpointing. Why is it that they constantly release security fixes whenever an exploit is found if only a small amount know about homebrew?
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I pretty sure it's got nothing to do with homebrew. Sony are realeasing 'security fixes' to prevent ISO loading. Because they lose money when people don pay for their games. If anything, Sony would want Homebrew to to be available because it would sell a (very) few extra PSPs.

I'm sure if they could work out a way to have the availability of hombrew without ISO loaders then we would all be cool .

Also, the recent cracking of the PSX emulator (thankyou D_A!) Is losing them money because now people wont be buying PS3s and PS1 games! (I know i would have been happy to spend 10 or so dollars for a few PS1 games but i cant afford a 1000 dolalr console!)

Sony may want to stop homebrew because a small amount of it can or does brick the PSP, resulting in the many hundreds of noobs returning their PSPs to Sony, costing sony money.

It's all about $$$$!!!
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you can emulate more on a PC than you can on a psp, all you gotta do is look up nes or snes or wutever emulator you want and i bet there is one for PC...or even linux and mac i dont think nintendo cares or any console maker for that matter
Emulators are legal so comapnies cant really do anything about them. Roms on the other hand all arent legal. Nintendo takes roms very seriously. And what company wouldnt? Nintendo and all other comapnies worked very hard on there games and it upsets them to see poeple playing there games they worked hard on for free.

On Topic: At first it seems to be a easy solution Sony stops making firmwares and homebrew will eventually die up. But you have to realize there are ALOT more poeple with psps without homebrew that sony would lose because they stopped making new firmwares to stop the 5% of homebrew users. It would be a terrible business strategy. Sony tries as much as they can to stop homebrew without it making them look weak and they have to give in to it. Tho at the end of the day Sony is a billion dollar company that bring happiness to probably millions of poeple a day with there products(legally too) while homebrew developers dont so Sony still wins.
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New firmware versions do NOT boost homebrew, they hinder it. To claim otherwise is just bizarre.

Sony release new versions to combat the threat of piracy that raises its head every time we're able to exploit something in a recent version. You can be sure that they will do whatever they can to block the recent PSX download piracy.

If they were to stop trying to block homebrew, then some of the great developers that spend all their time trying to get it back might be able to spend some time on doing more interesting things with the platform.
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New firmware versions do NOT boost homebrew, they hinder it. To claim otherwise is just bizarre.

Sony release new versions to combat the threat of piracy that raises its head every time we're able to exploit something in a recent version. You can be sure that they will do whatever they can to block the recent PSX download piracy.

If they were to stop trying to block homebrew, then some of the great developers that spend all their time trying to get it back might be able to spend some time on doing more interesting things with the platform.

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I think that they do it for the same reason they say they do. Security. If every one played emulators (or isos) then they would loose a ton of $$$ But since they have a large portion of people that cant/dont know how, they still have people buying a ton of games, I use emulators some (i buy my games though) but I just dont get games as much, because there are the homebrew, and emulators, and even teh popstation games now..........
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That was the exact statement I was counterpointing. Why is it that they constantly release security fixes whenever an exploit is found if only a small amount know about homebrew?
Because if it's there, people will exploit it.
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