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**chriscooke109** · 03-05-2006, 11:08 AM

is there a neo geo cartridge emulator for the psp???

**Evab3vA** · 03-05-2006, 11:24 AM

No. Not yet anyways.

**chriscooke109** · 03-05-2006, 11:30 AM

hopefully soon then. thanks for answering

**ProjectNemesis** · 03-05-2006, 07:57 PM

it would be nice to see someone at least try it. im sure many people would enjoy it.

DEADAsDillinger · 03-05-2006, 10:37 PM

Is anybody even working on one?

**Amadeus** · 03-06-2006, 04:32 AM

I've been looking around and as far as I can tell it's thought that the PSP cant handle the rom size.

There have been projects in the past to convery rom games to cd. Though the guy who was doing it was charging and they were small ones. No metal slug X.

The internal hardware is basicly the same in both systems.
The main diverence was the delivery method.

**chriscooke109** · 03-06-2006, 04:53 AM

why could the psp not handle the rom size because the cd roms are about the same size as the cartridge roms

**brain_stew** · 03-06-2006, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriscooke109

why could the psp not handle the rom size because the cd roms are about the same size as the cartridge roms

CD games "load" chunks of the game into memory at certain points (i.e. loading screens). Cartridges work by constantly streaming data data, and because the memory stick is not fast enough for this, the entire rom need to be loaded into the PSP'S RAM. The PSP has about 24MB of useable RAM, some of which needs to be used by the emulator itself, so only roms which are about 16MB or less would be useable. Considering pretty much all the games that are 16MB or less have Neo CD versions, there's not much point in creating an AES/MVS emulator.

It could be possible to write a "streaming" engine for roms (I think this might have been done with the Xbox N64 emulator) but this would have to be done from scratch, would be VERY difficult and would have no guarantee of success.

**Amadeus** · 03-06-2006, 07:48 AM

The only way I can see it being done if there is a loader made for each game. That would completely replace the game engine and just use the rom as a storage bank for sprites and sounds etc.

Dont know how possible that would be, or how much work.
Somebody sometime might do it for the main popular games.. metal slug etc.

**mstrhelix** · 03-06-2006, 07:50 AM

well there is one sorta... MAME for psp. Mame for psp is split up into diff sections because of size of mame program. so there is an SNK mame that can run some roms but not any worth mentioning.

**Amadeus** · 03-06-2006, 08:02 AM

There is a mame for the pc that can run neo geo roms.
But thats because your average pc has more than 24MB of useable RAM.

Or do you mean there is one for the psp?

**mstrhelix** · 03-06-2006, 09:05 AM

mame for psp is split into ie... konami1 konami2, capcom1, capcom2, SNK, etc etc etc

SNK would be for neo geo roms but not many worth playin work right now. nobody is working on mame anymore

**atothejtothel** · 03-06-2006, 01:14 PM

if we could use virtual ram then we could load the rom into the memory but we cant so unless someone wants to make an emu that only plays games under 24mb or 16(i think for 2.0?)then he can go waste his time.........

**mstrhelix** · 03-06-2006, 02:26 PM

to bad there is not a way to convert the neo geo roms to ngcd .iso's

**Amadeus** · 03-07-2006, 01:08 AM

There is.

There was this guy a while back who did a few. I think that there was a whole lot of work involved though. And the ones that he did were small ones. I'll see if I can dig anything up laters.

**chaoskingz** · 03-07-2006, 02:31 AM

any luck amadeus?

**Amadeus** · 03-07-2006, 05:32 AM

Just a thread with some dead links....
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showth...t=112661&pp=25

I'll have a better look tonight.

**Amadeus** · 03-13-2006, 06:04 AM

Take a look at this

NEO4ALL

If it's possbile to have a rom emulator on the Dream cast it should be possible on the PSP....

source code

**Coldbird** · 03-13-2006, 06:53 AM

Hm... well, someone who knows what he is doing could give it an attempt...

**brain_stew** · 03-13-2006, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstrhelix

mame for psp is split into ie... konami1 konami2, capcom1, capcom2, SNK, etc etc etc

SNK would be for neo geo roms but not many worth playin work right now. nobody is working on mame anymore

There's SNK roms that are playable but none of them are Neo Geo roms.

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mstrhelix Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dark_Alex Command Center Posts: 597 Trader Feedback: 0	well there is one sorta... MAME for psp. Mame for psp is split up into diff sections because of size of mame program. so there is an SNK mame that can run some roms but not any worth mentioning. __________________ [FONT=Fixedsys][spoiler="PSP DAX_Hacks"]PSP1001 3.71-M33-4 ------------------------------------------ - 17 Diff Castlevania Games on 4Gb Stick Cps2psp2.30 - MVSpsp[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]2.30[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys] + Bootlegs - gpSP09 - PsUltraRip - Manhunt2 Uncensored [/spoiler] [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]Consoles Pwnd: PSP, Xbox360 Pwnd: PSP, PSOne, PS2, Xbox360 [/FONT]

03-06-2006, 09:05 AM	#12
mstrhelix Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dark_Alex Command Center Posts: 597 Trader Feedback: 0	mame for psp is split into ie... konami1 konami2, capcom1, capcom2, SNK, etc etc etc SNK would be for neo geo roms but not many worth playin work right now. nobody is working on mame anymore __________________ [FONT=Fixedsys][spoiler="PSP DAX_Hacks"]PSP1001 3.71-M33-4 ------------------------------------------ - 17 Diff Castlevania Games on 4Gb Stick Cps2psp2.30 - MVSpsp[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]2.30[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys] + Bootlegs - gpSP09 - PsUltraRip - Manhunt2 Uncensored [/spoiler] [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]Consoles Pwnd: PSP, Xbox360 Pwnd: PSP, PSOne, PS2, Xbox360 [/FONT]

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mstrhelix Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dark_Alex Command Center Posts: 597 Trader Feedback: 0	to bad there is not a way to convert the neo geo roms to ngcd .iso's __________________ [FONT=Fixedsys][spoiler="PSP DAX_Hacks"]PSP1001 3.71-M33-4 ------------------------------------------ - 17 Diff Castlevania Games on 4Gb Stick Cps2psp2.30 - MVSpsp[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]2.30[/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys] + Bootlegs - gpSP09 - PsUltraRip - Manhunt2 Uncensored [/spoiler] [/FONT][FONT=Fixedsys]Consoles Pwnd: PSP, Xbox360 Pwnd: PSP, PSOne, PS2, Xbox360 [/FONT]

03-05-2006, 11:30 AM	#3
chriscooke109 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 256 Trader Feedback: 0	hopefully soon then. thanks for answering

03-05-2006, 07:57 PM	#4
ProjectNemesis Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 289 Trader Feedback: 0	it would be nice to see someone at least try it. im sure many people would enjoy it.

03-05-2006, 10:37 PM	#5
DEADAsDillinger Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 7 Trader Feedback: 0	Is anybody even working on one?

03-06-2006, 04:32 AM	#6
Amadeus Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Trader Feedback: 0	I've been looking around and as far as I can tell it's thought that the PSP cant handle the rom size. There have been projects in the past to convery rom games to cd. Though the guy who was doing it was charging and they were small ones. No metal slug X. The internal hardware is basicly the same in both systems. The main diverence was the delivery method.

03-06-2006, 04:53 AM	#7
chriscooke109 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 256 Trader Feedback: 0	why could the psp not handle the rom size because the cd roms are about the same size as the cartridge roms

03-06-2006, 07:48 AM	#9
Amadeus Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Trader Feedback: 0	The only way I can see it being done if there is a loader made for each game. That would completely replace the game engine and just use the rom as a storage bank for sprites and sounds etc. Dont know how possible that would be, or how much work. Somebody sometime might do it for the main popular games.. metal slug etc.

03-06-2006, 08:02 AM	#11
Amadeus Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Trader Feedback: 0	There is a mame for the pc that can run neo geo roms. But thats because your average pc has more than 24MB of useable RAM. Or do you mean there is one for the psp?

03-06-2006, 01:14 PM	#13
atothejtothel Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: somewhere over the rainbow... Posts: 345 Trader Feedback: 0	if we could use virtual ram then we could load the rom into the memory but we cant so unless someone wants to make an emu that only plays games under 24mb or 16(i think for 2.0?)then he can go waste his time.........

03-07-2006, 01:08 AM	#15
Amadeus Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Trader Feedback: 0	There is. There was this guy a while back who did a few. I think that there was a whole lot of work involved though. And the ones that he did were small ones. I'll see if I can dig anything up laters.

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Amadeus Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Trader Feedback: 0	Take a look at this NEO4ALL If it's possbile to have a rom emulator on the Dream cast it should be possible on the PSP.... source code

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