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**Strangler** · 08-28-2006, 10:26 PM

can anyone list all the 32mb roms all I can think of are kingdom hearts,mother 3, and riviera. also when will these be supported on the emu? Gives us some sort of a rough estimate at least.

**~Ellen~** · 08-28-2006, 10:35 PM

how come only 32mb theres roms larger than that

**Strangler** · 08-28-2006, 10:36 PM

which ones? will the psps upport those too?

**UnluckyLuke** · 08-28-2006, 10:37 PM

Bleach is 32 megs as well. Can't think of anything else.

**~Ellen~** · 08-28-2006, 10:42 PM

Yeah i was just being technical the ones larger are gba movies

**KKlicK** · 08-28-2006, 10:44 PM

There are very few 32MB GBA ROMs to go around. 32MB is massive for GBA ROMs. KH:CoM is only 16MB.

SeikenZ · 08-29-2006, 02:03 AM

Anyways, gpSP doesn't support 32mb+ yet. Only up till 16mb runs.

**Strangler** · 08-29-2006, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterBeefy

There are very few 32MB GBA ROMs to go around. 32MB is massive for GBA ROMs. KH:CoM is only 16MB.

so why doesnt it support kh?

SeikenZ · 08-29-2006, 02:14 AM

Probably because it doesn't run correctly. Just a bug with emulators imo.

**Pspbricker** · 08-29-2006, 05:13 AM

The psp havent got enough memory to load the rom...

**genaga** · 08-29-2006, 06:25 AM

sims2 is if i can remember correctly

santosdominic · 08-29-2006, 06:59 AM

Actually KH:CoM is 32MB, and i've heard from the creator of gpsp somewhere on this forum that although the psp wouldn't be able to load the whole ROM in one go but he will implement some sort of ROM splitting.

**midnitdragoon** · 08-29-2006, 07:05 AM

Mother3 is 32 mb

**Tobias170** · 08-29-2006, 10:34 AM

there is japanese pokemon games which has over 32MB the games ain't workin because of their size ...
the psp only has this limited ammount of ram which isn't enough for really cpu-intensive emulators ...
maybe it would be possible to launch them if someone would be able to create a compression mode for roms or something like this (not sure about this as i am not a dev)

**xsorifc28** · 08-29-2006, 10:36 AM

dudes, koh com is 32, i have the rom and it wont work.

**dHAPPY** · 08-29-2006, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xsorifc28

dudes, koh com is 32, i have the rom and it wont work.

Don't be flame'in!

**Strangler** · 08-29-2006, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pspbricker

The psp havent got enough memory to load the rom...

and the gba does?

**Master Inuyasha** · 08-29-2006, 05:59 PM

Maybe the GBA has streaming capabilities? Maybe GBA has found a way around that? Maybe Nintendo is holding out on us about the GBA ram specs?

**CA$HMON3Y** · 08-29-2006, 06:22 PM

what i dont get is how GBA roms are bigger than SNES roms?

santosdominic · 08-30-2006, 05:31 AM

I think the gba reads the cartridge directly, so it doesn't have to load the whole of the rom into memory, and the psp does actually have enough RAM to fit a whole 32MB rom in it, but that's all that would fit, and because the actual emulator needs to run in the background it just wouldn't work. Compressing or trimming the rom is an idea though, sometimes trimming roms can take off quite a bit of space and trimming the 32MB roms could provide just enough space for them to fit into memory. But as i said above, i've heard the guy who created it say somewhere that he could load only part of the rom possibly.

Hterag · 08-30-2006, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by santosdominic

I think the gba reads the cartridge directly, so it doesn't have to load the whole of the rom into memory

QFT, I'd just like to add that with cartridge based consoles the cartridge itself is the RAM, that's why there are little to no loading times in games.

If you look at the Sega CD addon for the Mega Drive(Genesis) you need a cartridge plugged in as well as the CD just to act as RAM.

**iball®** · 08-30-2006, 06:00 AM

If you ladies spent as much time WORKING to save up for a decent GBA/DS flashcart then you wouldn't be whining about what ROMs the GBA emulators on various platofrms can and cannot play.

Now, go

Wikipedia for the GBA and GBA carts and read up on how it's done.

BTW, the 2nd gen SegaCD (the side-car one) had the extra RAM built-in so there was no need for a RAM cart.

Emerald Weapon · 08-31-2006, 04:37 PM

yugioh 2006 is 32 megs

**Drathian** · 08-31-2006, 07:00 PM

Well actually emulators, and games in general don't work by loading the entire game/rom/cd/dvd etc into RAM, while being very fast it would be horribly expensive (on the consumer and taxing on the system) and inefficent. What these things do usually is load certain parts into ram that are being accessed at certain times. Right now his emulator loads the entire rom into memory, eventually and IMO not too difficult once he focuses on it would it be for him to have it load a portion into memory cached so that bigger roms can be loaded. But I haven't seen many 32MB roms, note there is a difference between MegaBytes and Megabit most roms are at least 32 Megabits some up to 128-256megabits, but they aren't nearly 32mb is size if that makes any sense. bits are talking about how the processor reads the data, and bytes is talking about how much space it takes up.

Hope this clears some people's confusion.

08-28-2006, 10:26 PM	#1
Strangler Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,432 Trader Feedback: 0	32 mb gba roms can anyone list all the 32mb roms all I can think of are kingdom hearts,mother 3, and riviera. also when will these be supported on the emu? Gives us some sort of a rough estimate at least. __________________ [url]http://www.stuffonmycat.com/media/2/20060821-SQUIRT.jpg[/url]

08-28-2006, 10:35 PM	#2
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08-28-2006, 10:36 PM	#3
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08-28-2006, 10:42 PM	#5
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08-28-2006, 10:44 PM	#6
KKlicK Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ridin' With Urza Posts: 1,950 Trader Feedback: 0	There are very few 32MB GBA ROMs to go around. 32MB is massive for GBA ROMs. KH:CoM is only 16MB. __________________ [CENTER][IMG]http://klick.ws/images/phil.png[/IMG] [SIZE="6"][B][U][COLOR="RED"]Most baddest mother****er alive.[/COLOR][/U][/B][/SIZE] [/CENTER]

08-28-2006, 10:37 PM	#4
UnluckyLuke Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 71 Trader Feedback: 0	Bleach is 32 megs as well. Can't think of anything else.

08-29-2006, 02:03 AM	#7
SeikenZ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 570 Trader Feedback: 0	Anyways, gpSP doesn't support 32mb+ yet. Only up till 16mb runs. __________________

08-29-2006, 02:14 AM	#9
SeikenZ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 570 Trader Feedback: 0	Probably because it doesn't run correctly. Just a bug with emulators imo. __________________

08-29-2006, 05:13 AM	#10
Pspbricker Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 244 Trader Feedback: 0	The psp havent got enough memory to load the rom...

08-29-2006, 06:25 AM	#11
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08-29-2006, 06:59 AM	#12
santosdominic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	Actually KH:CoM is 32MB, and i've heard from the creator of gpsp somewhere on this forum that although the psp wouldn't be able to load the whole ROM in one go but he will implement some sort of ROM splitting.

08-29-2006, 07:05 AM	#13
midnitdragoon Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: new york Posts: 191 Trader Feedback: 0	Mother3 is 32 mb

08-29-2006, 10:34 AM	#14
Tobias170 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 602 Trader Feedback: 0	there is japanese pokemon games which has over 32MB the games ain't workin because of their size ... the psp only has this limited ammount of ram which isn't enough for really cpu-intensive emulators ... maybe it would be possible to launch them if someone would be able to create a compression mode for roms or something like this (not sure about this as i am not a dev) __________________ Sorry for my bad english i'm german [URL=www.aktion-gegen-kinderpornographie.de]Your voice against child porn[/URL] Please sign it even if its in german My PSP firmware history 2.01-->2.6-->1.5-->2.0 (in order to clean the flash)-->1.5 -->harleyg's custom firmware 0.2-->2.71 se-a (semi-brick installing se-b)-->1.5 via recovery-->2.71 se-b the iso loading monster

08-29-2006, 10:36 AM	#15
xsorifc28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Removable Disk (G:) Posts: 1,698 Trader Feedback: 0	dudes, koh com is 32, i have the rom and it wont work. __________________ [CENTER] [_ıииeя_тυяκ*_] Turkish Power >_< [/CENTER]

08-29-2006, 05:59 PM	#18
Master Inuyasha Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: GA \| Banned: 3 \| Warned: 3 Posts: 2,253 Trader Feedback: 0	Maybe the GBA has streaming capabilities? Maybe GBA has found a way around that? Maybe Nintendo is holding out on us about the GBA ram specs?

08-29-2006, 06:22 PM	#19
CA$HMON3Y Join Date: May 2006 Location: Detroit, MI! Bia Bia!! Posts: 1,391 Trader Feedback: 0	what i dont get is how GBA roms are bigger than SNES roms?

08-30-2006, 05:31 AM	#20
santosdominic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: UK Posts: 46 Trader Feedback: 0	I think the gba reads the cartridge directly, so it doesn't have to load the whole of the rom into memory, and the psp does actually have enough RAM to fit a whole 32MB rom in it, but that's all that would fit, and because the actual emulator needs to run in the background it just wouldn't work. Compressing or trimming the rom is an idea though, sometimes trimming roms can take off quite a bit of space and trimming the 32MB roms could provide just enough space for them to fit into memory. But as i said above, i've heard the guy who created it say somewhere that he could load only part of the rom possibly.

08-30-2006, 06:00 AM	#22
iball® My Mood: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Interstates Posts: 9,652 Trader Feedback: 0	If you ladies spent as much time WORKING to save up for a decent GBA/DS flashcart then you wouldn't be whining about what ROMs the GBA emulators on various platofrms can and cannot play. Now, go Wikipedia for the GBA and GBA carts and read up on how it's done. BTW, the 2nd gen SegaCD (the side-car one) had the extra RAM built-in so there was no need for a RAM cart. __________________ [spoiler=signature][center][img]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/iball2929/iballsig2fz.jpg[/img][/center] [size=-2][center][b][color=purple]Nintendo DS WFC codes[/b][/color][/center][/size][size=-2][center][b][color=green]Mario Kart DS: 180448 583615 (I-Ball)[/color] [color=blue]Animal Crossing: Town of Sampson 4853-9284-6519 (I-Ball)[/color] [color=red]Metroid Prime Hunters: 5025 8054 3555[/size][/center][/color][size=-2][center]-----------------[/center][center][color=blue]Homebrew authors! If your software is based upon GPL code then you MUST release the modified source code you created the same time you release the binaries![/b][/size][/color][/center] [size=-2][center][b]Supercard mini-SD w/2GB 150x Mini-SD card, SuperPass II, FlashMe v7 and an EFA Linker II GBA flashcart[/b][/center][/size][/spoiler]

08-31-2006, 04:37 PM	#23
Emerald Weapon Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4 Trader Feedback: 0	yugioh 2006 is 32 megs

08-31-2006, 07:00 PM	#24
Drathian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 126 Trader Feedback: 0	Well actually emulators, and games in general don't work by loading the entire game/rom/cd/dvd etc into RAM, while being very fast it would be horribly expensive (on the consumer and taxing on the system) and inefficent. What these things do usually is load certain parts into ram that are being accessed at certain times. Right now his emulator loads the entire rom into memory, eventually and IMO not too difficult once he focuses on it would it be for him to have it load a portion into memory cached so that bigger roms can be loaded. But I haven't seen many 32MB roms, note there is a difference between MegaBytes and Megabit most roms are at least 32 Megabits some up to 128-256megabits, but they aren't nearly 32mb is size if that makes any sense. bits are talking about how the processor reads the data, and bytes is talking about how much space it takes up. Hope this clears some people's confusion.

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