360 MEGASUPERTHREAD!!!1!!one! ! ~Sullivan~

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Zitat von ritterrav

Just put it like this, the company with the most games for its console is who?
Whats the company that has brought us all here today?
what company came out with a system that we all trust and has sold over 190 million units?
What company has a console that has grown to be a house hold name?
Who has A next Gen console that blew away E3 and its competitors? and it was only running at 75% full power.
What company is thinking about the future of watching movies at home and having there console support HD DVD from its launch, in turn saving you money
instead having to buy it later when it comes out later.
what company had the best graphics at E3?
What company was smart enough to have there console backwards compatible...?
Who has a better graphics chip, and who says there console is gonne be 2 times stronger then there competitor?

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I love your lies, Not,
The company that brought us here is Nintendo, they got video games consoles into homes
The company WE trust, that changes for every person
The truth is both nintendo,sony, and microsoft are all household names, At least in my area
E3 you joking, the ps3 wasen;t into even finshed, they were all FAKE, the 360 was using alpha kit, thats about 1/3 power from the full version,and the ps3 graphics, were all prerenderd.
The HD-DVD i'll give you that, but blu ray is kinda worthless,
Again 360 alpha kit, ps3 prerenderd
The xbox 360 is backwords compatible,
The 360 graphic card is better, and who "says" OK, sure it must be true if sony said it.

ps3 all the way, i dont really have any reasons... ;)

And why on a PSP forum does everyone hate sony??
Same way on computer forums everyone hates microsoft lol

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Zitat von Microsoft

The xbox 360 is backwords compatible,

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Only partially and emulated. That's barely backwards compatible.

Every company will have isolated incidents, and thats ok, Sony had theres, and xbox had theres, and nintendo had theres, so i understand if you where that isolated incident, like if sony failed you, you are going to probly be a xbox fan after that happens. same thing with xbox and nintendo,if xbox fails you, then yo gonna go to its competitors. thats why i know there will be ppl who dont like sony, because there ps2 died or what ever. but 190 million units sold, has to mean somthing right? 190 million units where sold... sorry you had to be the unlucky few to get screwed over... I dunno how many xbox's where sold and im sorry those unlucky few who bought xbox's and got screwed, same for the nintendo ppl.

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Zitat von Josh1billion

Only partially and emulated. That's barely backwards compatible.

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screw this talk, look at this:
Playstation Portable Emulator for Xbox?
>> Wraggster of psp-news.dcemu.co.uk informed us that mattfazzer announced a 'Cross-Platform Playstation Portable Emulator'. Right now I can't really confirm or tell you how serious or releastic this news is, but we'll give you the news 'as-is':

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Today I have finally decided on an official release date for PSPemu. The BETA version will be released without the firmware (Due To Security Reasons) meaning you will have to provide it yourself. The official release date is currently 1st October 2005, but this could go either way depending on my progress. Although the BETA version will not contain firmware, a custom BIOS will be available as of the 3rd October.
Screenshots will be added later this week, not tomorrow because I am busy, it could be a while before I get to sit down and work on PSPemu project, which may hold back the planned release date. But then I am providing the emulator for free and in my own time, it will be extremely hectic considering i go back to school on tuesday (homework,stress and tiredness)... we shall have to see what happens.

Beta Version Feature List:
* Stable PSP Firmware Emulation
* Laptop/Tablet PC Battery Support
* 2.0 Web Browser Emulation
* Runs PBP Files(Homebrew)
* ISO Support(Not At Full Speed)
* WiFi Support
* Theme Setup
* Wallpaper Customisation
* MP3 and MPEG Support
* Full Screen Mode
* Reset,State Save and Power Off.
* Home Button Support(Includes Home Confirmation Screen)
* UMD Emulation(.umd files - new file type)*
* XBOX Version - (Limitations - No WiFi or ISO Support)
* Linux Version
* Windows And Mac Versions
* PSP Drive Emulation(PSP/GAME/ etc.)
* Extended 3D Rom Support
* New Project Name:PSPemu (Xbox: PSPemuX)

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Official Site: http://mattfazzer.bl.am (news via psp-news.dcemu.co.uk)

Where the hell are you pulling this 190 million figure from? Because the PS2 only recently topped 90 million. And think how many of those were re-purchases because of dead PS2's.

"Microsoft", what the hell? That's not even related to what I was talking about.

What we have just witnessed is the ancient art of "Thread Derailment".

Just put it like this, the company with the most games for its console is who?
Whats the company that has brought us all here today? - Quantity = quality? :rolleyes:
what company came out with a system that we all trust and has sold over 190 million units? - As above
What company has a console that has grown to be a house hold name? - ^^^
Who has A next Gen console that blew away E3 and its competitors? and it was only running at 75% full power. - Define "blew away E3" Pretty videos don't have any baring on the quality of the final product
What company is thinking about the future of watching movies at home and having there console support HD DVD from its launch, in turn saving you money? - Sony, if I want to play Hi def I'll buy a high quality player
What company was smart enough to have there console backwards compatible...? - Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft
Who has a better graphics chip, and who says there console is gonne be 2 times stronger then there competitor? - Microsoft have the better graphics card and Sony said there console was more powerful, suprisingly :rolleyes: Just like Microsoft said there was a few days later, doesn't mean anything.

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Microsoft just wants your money... microseft made it easier for you to spend money in XBOX live, by being able to buy a T-SHIRT!! YEAH!!! no. Microsoft didn't make they next console backwards compatible... so you will still buy games for your xbox and the xbox 360.

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Cause Sony loves us all and isn't in it for the money. :wall:

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If you guessed Nintendo, you get a smack, and imma leave it there. because your to stupid to talk to.

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Why? Whats wrong with nintendo?

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If you guessed Sony your right. IT S SONY!! They made our psp, ps2, and groundbreaking ps1. 10,000 ps2 titles. all able to work on the ps3. and the ps3 has more connection ports then some computers out there. 6 USB cables, Fd flash and more that i dont know the name of, you know it supports our memory sticks... So what you going to buy when it comes out? PS3.

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PS3 has lots of ports and you can put memory sticks into it? O.M.G. Microsoft is doomed.

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And to be honest, when the ps2 came out, Microsoft opened it up, and made a better console, so when the Xbox360 comes out, what you think sony going to do??? there gonna do it to. So you already know that its gonna be a better console...

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Yeah, Sony are going to suddenly increase the power cause its just that easy :rolleyes:

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I love your lies, Not,
The company that brought us here is Nintendo, they got video games consoles into homes
The company WE trust, that changes for every person
The truth is both nintendo,sony, and microsoft are all household names, At least in my area
E3 you joking, the ps3 wasen;t into even finshed, they were all FAKE, the 360 was using alpha kit, thats about 1/3 power from the full version,and the ps3 graphics, were all prerenderd.
The HD-DVD i'll give you that, but blu ray is kinda worthless,
Again 360 alpha kit, ps3 prerenderd
The xbox 360 is backwords compatible,
The 360 graphic card is better, and who "says" OK, sure it must be true if sony said it.

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Nintendo, yes, they did, and im greatfull.
Yeah, xbox showd there stuff at E3....................... .................... Alot of people where impressed about xbox360.................. .................Not.
The Xbox360 was on its alpha kit, why? because its closer to being finished, the ps3 is not, hinting why it will be released next year. the games that xbox did show werent all that anyway. IF the ps3 showing was prerendered who cares, if it looks like that when the ps3 is at its full power, then im happy. and the only prerendered thing you are talking about is killzone 2. What about fight night? any comments there? that was real time.
Blutooth is the best wifi out there. its in all the new phones... so many things you cant imagine, why xobx dont have it? maybe because they were slow, and sony got it first.
backwards compatible? Dont make me laugh, go play all the games you want that are backwards compatible, let me give you a list of all of them...


Halo2...

thats it. have fun.
Edit: BLUETOOOOOOOOOOTH! Thats what i ment, i mixed it upppp.

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Zitat von ritterrav

Blu-ray is the best wifi service out there. its in all the new phones... so many things you cant imagine, why xobx dont have it? maybe because they were slow, and sony got it first.

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Zitat von ritterrav

Graphics card?Ps3 has 2 of them, 2 seperate cards to make things go faster.. not any cards, they have Nvidia, sorry i forgot the exact name of the cards...

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You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Blu-Ray is hardly anything WiFi, I'll assume you're talking about Bluetooth. A lot more than Halo 2 will be backwards compatable. PS3 has ONE graphics card, the RSX. It will be more or less around the speed of a 7800GTX (Which is faster than 2 6800's in SLI).

bluetooth is what i meant. MY BAD! blue stuff, i got confused, oopsy. :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

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Zitat von ritterrav

Nintendo, yes, they did, and im greatfull.
Yeah, xbox showd there stuff at E3....................... .................... Alot of people where impressed about xbox360.................. .................Not.
The Xbox360 was on its alpha kit, why? because its closer to being finished, the ps3 is not, hinting why it will be released next year. the games that xbox did show werent all that anyway. IF the ps3 showing was prerendered who cares, if it looks like that when the ps3 is at its full power, then im happy. and the only prerendered thing you are talking about is killzone 2. What about fight night? any comments there? that was real time.
Blu-ray is the best wifi service out there. its in all the new phones... so many things you cant imagine, why xobx dont have it? maybe because they were slow, and sony got it first.
backwards compatible? Dont make me laugh, go play all the games you want that are backwards compatible, let me give you a list of all of them...


Halo2...

thats it. have fun.

Graphics card?Ps3 has 2 of them, 2 seperate cards to make things go faster.. not any cards, they have Nvidia, sorry i forgot the exact name of the cards...

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WOW, your an OMG just WOW,
blu-ray is the disc type, bluetooth is the wifi, get your facts together
Prereneder are movie graphics not game graphics, the RSX dosen't have unified shader and works at only about 75% efficenty while the 360 graphics card works at 100%, also theres on more thing that makes the xbox 360 one better, ask OblivionX,j allerd sadi they're working on making all games abckword compatible. Geez your like 2 years old here, taking about stuff your dont even understand, bluetooth.

What does the Source Engine have anything to do with PhysX?

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Zitat von ritterrav

IF the ps3 showing was prerendered who cares, if it looks like that when the ps3 is at its full power, then im happy.

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It probably won't be looking like that any time soon, at least not at the texture quality in the demos.

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What about fight night? any comments there? that was real time.

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Which is also on the xbox 360, looks exactly the same as the PS3 version and may even be released first.

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Blutooth is the best wifi out there. its in all the new phones... so many things you cant imagine, why xobx dont have it? maybe because they were slow, and sony got it first.

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Bluetooth is used for the wireless controllers, Microsoft have made their own wireless technology so they don't get much interference with other devices.

I can't believe people are still trying to say one machine is more powerful for the other. If anything I'd say Xenos (Xbox 360 GPU) > RSX and Cell > 3 xenon cores (especially where floating point numbers are concerned) and even then you won't see too much of a difference (if any) between games.

Personally I do not like bluetooth that much due to it as a power hog. I have it on my Pocket PC and it is good for transfer rate, but it does take up the battery faster :( i wonder what Nintendo used with the wavebird?

Source uses Havok 2.0 (I think). Unreal Engine 3 uses NovodeX (PhysX) though.

I suggest you don't get wound up by this guys posts, anyone who thinks the PS3 has two graphics cards and doesn't know what bluetooth is, can't be the most educated of buyers. He's supped up Sony's BS, we all have atleast once before so don't be so hard on the kid, because that's what he is, a kid.

But there nothing better to do on a Sunday evening :D

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Zitat von Ciaran500

But there nothing better to do on a Sunday evening :D

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No there isn't

this thread is exactly why PC will be better than all the consoles all the time

ya'll are going to burn me at the f'ing stake because i mixed up bluetooth and blu-ray, f;ing wow, i messed up, missed typed!!!! a typo! get over it. yes blu-disc's round things slim things that go into a dvd player and consoles i know, blutooth, is wifi, i got it.

And it is sunday, i have nothing to do. i dislike sundays.
my apologeez for the 2 cards, obviosly i was confused.
That comment about me being a kid is incorrect, get your facts straight. what is you definition of a kid, we cant all be 30 year bald guys in our moms basement.
CPU

Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS

GPU

VS

Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU

Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache

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ya'll are going to burn me at the f'ing stake because i mixed up bluetooth and blu-ray, f;ing wow, i messed up, missed typed!!!! a typo! get over it. yes blu-disc's round things slim things that go into a dvd player and consoles i know, blutooth, is wifi, i got it.

And it is sunday, i have nothing to do. i dislike sundays.

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read my sig Operation...

maybe you should read it yourslef.


Edit::Not frozen

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Zitat von ritterrav

maybe you should read it yourslef.

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I follow to rules unlike you, look how many times your swear in your post.

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my apologeez for the 2 cards, obviosly i was confused.
That comment about me being a kid is incorrect, get your facts straight. what is you definition of a kid, we cant all be 30 year bald guys in our moms basement.
GPU of RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

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Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU

Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
Two hardware threads per core; six hardware threads total
VMX-128 vector unit per core; three total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache

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EDIT: funny are we, thats the GPU vs. the CPU, wow, there is no point in even taking to you, you can say sorry for the bluetooth but that...

What, you upset about F'ing? i do say that, its not big deal its abreviated, and not at anybody in specific. Other ppl, are just plain insulting peoples inteligence, by saying there are a kid, loaded up on ther BS, or not very educated. Those are insults, just because they contain no perphanity, doesnt mean those arent insults.

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What, you upset about F'ing? i do say that, its not big deal its abreviated, and not at anybody in specific. Other ppl, are just plain insulting peoples inteligence, by saying there are a kid, loaded up on ther BS, or not very educated. Those are insults, just because they contain no perphanity, doesnt mean those arent insults.

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If you don't know what your taking about, don't post, It's easy, GPU is not even close to CPU, just like 2 graphic cards, or blu-ray. It's ok do diss your intelligance, when you don't know what your taking about and what your posting.

But isnt that againts you basic code of operations? Isnt insulting people agiants the rules. and you still continue doing it,and have the ghalls to say upi are following the rules... I have yet to insult some one, even if i have messed up on what i have said.

Edit::Uhh, Kingofnoobs where you get that sigg? i like advent children.

Actually... You tell him to follow PSPositive and yet you break a couple points of it:

"Operation: PSPositive Posting is our effort to make this site helpful and friendly for everyone, and encourages the following initiatives:

* Respect the opinions and thoughts of others, regardless of how incorrect they may be.
* Insulting another member or "flaming" is never necessary under any circumstances."

...and i never did diss your intelligance, i just said it was ok to, since you didn't know what you were taking about.

on the ps3 thing RSX is better than 7800GTX

here are the GTX specs
Model
Brand BFG Tech
Model BFGR78256GTXOC
Chipset
GPU Geforce 7800GTX
Core clock 460MHz
Memory
Memory Clock 1300MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 9
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Interface
Interface PCI Express x16
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV Out
VIVO Yes
TV Tuner No
General
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution [email protected]
SLI Supported Yes

and the RSX specs
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

so the ps3 is better graphics card wise to the 7800GTX
so on that all thats BS is lies.... RSX is [much[ more powerful then the 7800GTX (nividia even stated that the 7800GTX is a prototype)

...I'm getting a PS3 in 2008. There's only ONE reason why I EVER got an Xbox. It's because of Shin Megami Tensei NINE.

is it just me or do the graphics in the next gen consoles look to reflective? like to much, i know they wanna look realistic, but i cant see myself in other ppl's skin...
I wasnt only talking to you micro, but its aiight.


Where you get the SIGGGGG!! Kingofnoobs, cmon, speak.

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on the ps3 thing RSX is better than 7800GTX

here are the GTX specs
Model
Brand BFG Tech
Model BFGR78256GTXOC
Chipset
GPU Geforce 7800GTX
Core clock 460MHz
Memory
Memory Clock 1300MHz
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Interface 256-bit
Memory Type GDDR3
3D API
DirectX DirectX 9
OpenGL OpenGL 2.0
Interface
Interface PCI Express x16
Ports
DVI 2
TV-Out HDTV Out
VIVO Yes
TV Tuner No
General
RAMDAC 400 MHz
Max Resolution [email protected]
SLI Supported Yes

and the RSX specs
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines

so the ps3 is better graphics card wise to the 7800GTX
so on that all thats BS is lies.... RSX is [much[ more powerful then the 7800GTX (nividia even stated that the 7800GTX is a prototype)

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while its clocked higher and is better its not much more powerful by any stretch of the imagination. 1.8 tflops sounds alot but its alot less than that, because of the way they have counted the floating point calculations. If it was a true 1.8 the gcard alone wud be faster than the 360. When we know that the xenos it twice as fast as 2 6800GTs in sli. While the floating point calculation is sony number spinning, the real world performance of the rsx and the ps3 will be amazing. Considering the amount of optimization available. Doom 3 can run a geforce 3 in the xbox. Even if it was just a 7800GTX you wudnt hear many people complaining. But yes the report on the rsx was false aswell as the report on the 360s physics. Ps3 and xbox 360 will be on par, im buying the 360 1st obviosly because its out earlier. But I am open minded about the ps3, if sony price it right i wudnt mind having 2 great nextgen consoles. But I have feeling americans will get a good price and europe will get screwed. At the moment im planning to get the 360 and the rev.

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This doesnt particually bother me. Firstly if it doesnt work and it will work on dual cores lower clocked PC's they obviously haven't ported the code right. Secondly, OBX, where was this from:

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was from an email to the developers of NovodeX. Anyway the report is false. And fearreaper is correct about the physics, my pc can run those demos just fine and its only a 2800+ XP.

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while its clocked higher and is better its not much more powerful by any stretch of the imagination. 1.8 tflops sounds alot but its alot less than that, because of the way they have counted the floating point calculations. If it was a true 1.8 the gcard alone wud be faster than the 360. When we know that the xenos it twice as fast as 2 6800GTs in sli. While the floating point calculation is sony number spinning, the real world performance of the rsx and the ps3 will be amazing. Considering the amount of optimization available. Doom 3 can run a geforce 3 in the xbox. Even if it was just a 7800GTX you wudnt hear many people complaining. But yes the report on the rsx was false aswell as the report on the 360s physics. Ps3 and xbox 360 will be on par, im buying the 360 1st obviosly because its out earlier. But I am open minded about the ps3, if sony price it right i wudnt mind having 2 great nextgen consoles. But I have feeling americans will get a good price and europe will get screwed. At the moment im planning to get the 360 and the rev.

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you cant confirm any of this since no video card has 1.8 teraflops.. i guess we should just wait and see how powerful next gen systems really are

and why do you keep on insisting it will be like 500-1000 dollars? the could easily be bluffing and release at standard 300.... because ps2 was MUCh more powerful and had lots more stuff but it wasnt 500 dollars....

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you cant confirm any of this since no video card has 1.8 teraflops.. i guess we should just wait and see how powerful next gen systems really are

and why do you keep on insisting it will be like 500-1000 dollars? the could easily be bluffing and release at standard 300.... because ps2 was MUCh more powerful and had lots more stuff but it wasnt 500 dollars....

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It will not be anything bellow 400, how many thimes must people tell you this. and 1.8 tp at 100% but it will only run at about 75% effacincy. Oh the ps2 was the worst of the current consoles in terms of power.

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It will not be anything bellow 400, how many thimes must people tell you this. and 1.8 tp at 100% but it will only run at about 75% effacincy. Oh the ps2 was the worst of the current consoles in terms of power.

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but it came out a year before everything else so they had time to make there consoles better.......

lol it wont do 1.8 teraflops at full power. At least not in the way teraflops are usually measured. They counted the pixel and vertex shaders seperatly something that noone ever does. They just wanted it to seem much better than the 360. And i can confirm that it wont run at true 1.8 teraflops. Infact if you do the xenos the same it comes out at around 1.7 teraflops. But thats not true teraflops. And that can run at 100%. I never insisted anything either, i said europe wud get screwed and we will. The ps3 simply has an overclocked 7800.