of all the 360's sold in the u.s how many are up & runnings in homes vs how many are stacked up in scalpers houses maybe like 50/50/ ok let's look. only 3%-5% of the launch 360's are reported defective by microsoft. all unit's sold=100%-50%on ebay-30%waiting for santa=20%left in use now.that comes out to like 6 bad ones for every 20 good ones wait till after xmas all hell is gonna break lose at microsoft repair centers & lot's of luck getting it fixed after xmas also it seems like a disc problem to me yea my system run's hot but i have c.o.d. pdz pgr& kong kong.kong is the only one that freezing is a problem. i bought kong took it home played then crash over & over like every five min's took it back exchanged it now it only crashes like every hour like the disc was burned to fast or something ?????????