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**Nytrix** · 03-18-2006, 05:18 PM

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I (NytriX) have figured out how it was done in the video.
(the video of the guy playing the PGR3 backup)
heres the instructions, I am currently playing Full Auto (Backed up).

It's a modified firmware of the Xbox 360 DVD-ROM drive.

As you (should) know, all Xbox 360 executables (XEX files) are signed by
Microsoft (with a private key only MS has). This means that if you try to change
anything to the XEX file, the signature will be wrong and the file will not
boot.

Now ... to protect from booting an exact 1:1 copy of a game from a DVD-+R,
microsoft gave each XEX file a 'mediaflag'. This mediaflag tells the Xbox 360
from which media (cd-r, dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd-rw, hdd, dvdxbox, dvdxbox360, ...).
Changing this mediaflag in XEX is not an option as it'll break the signature
(see above), so ... what's done in this firmware hack is 'break' the detection
of the disc.

(Pretty much) all the information you need is in these threads.

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=455.0

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=329.0

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=359.0

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=258.0

From what I can tell so far is that the game image will have to be patched
too - We can smell a new feature for Qwix 2 Wink

The scene can expect a hack for all drives very soon (It's currently only
Hitachi) - you can be assured that it will be released although I don't think
modchips will be any kind of business as its a pure piracy mod - no homebrew at
all.

**jedeye** · 03-18-2006, 09:42 PM

w00t first...

nice job bro

**OGLOC** · 03-18-2006, 10:40 PM

any way that this could contribute to us being able to run unsigned code?

**glitchbit** · 03-18-2006, 11:17 PM

::EDIT umm yea anyone with a 2.01 psp downgrader in their sig must be creditable:

xbox360 users, currently there is no 2.01 psp downgrader)

WOW....... I'm sorry it just looks like you've put 2+2 together to tell us it equals 4...... not how you actually do it......

umm yea we know it is a hack of the fw on the dvd drive and duh each brand and model of the drive will require a different fw. And second it almost undoubtedly needs to be hooked up to a pc to flash the fw till exploits allow flashing of the drive which may or may not ever come.

This news post is absolutely meaningly less..... unless you can quote everything that is actually meaningfull in each thread, I am not going to believe it. It is late but I have tried skimming through it and I see no solid proof or any of the sorts that someone has replicated what he did. Everyone is probably around 90-95% sure of what the guy did but no one has yet done it.

And don't you think we'd be seeing success stories or failures and even a new news posting on xbox

for something this big? Umm yea....I dunno who does the news here but they seriously jumped the gun. IF I am wrong I apologize right now.

I'm sorry but I have been around the scene back when they were doing this stuff with xbox 1 and posts like these that have nothing of real value like the TITLE suggests gets on everyones nerves.

More news posts I see like these makes me wonder why my real ground breaking news alert of PSIX didn't get posted, oh yea that is right there was no proof other than PICS and the mods did not believe it....damn we all know that wasn't real.....oh wait it was real.....and every OTHER psp news site posted it FIRST despite me notify pspupdates long before.

**desolatax** · 03-19-2006, 12:12 AM

I just want something that I can play my 360 backups, and possibly xbox if it works too

I don't condone piracy, but it is a shame that this is a pure piracy hack.

**stez** · 03-19-2006, 01:04 AM

i had to register just to say this......

your an idiot.

http://www.teamxecuter.com/

i like how you changed
"From what we can tell so far is that the game image"
to
"From what I can tell so far is that the game image"

**C.in-fvr3** · 03-19-2006, 01:46 AM

OK this looks really really great what he has accomplished but i have read all the links nytrix posted in his first post and to be honest, i dont understand anything out of it :P like which thing to do first, and what are all the numbers in the link's first post :S i'm probably noob but i think a lot of other people have the same problem as i have so i'm wondering can anybody PLZ make some readme or actual step by step guide i think very much people will appreciate that (like myself)

Thx already and good job,
Frank

p.s. where can i see what drive my xbox 360 has so i can check if it has the hitatchi one which is required

**NeoGreendawg** · 03-19-2006, 04:57 AM

Frank, let me simplify this for you, you would ;
1)Have to own a Hitach 360 drive
2)Do some soldering (open up the beast and void your warranty)
3)Know how to make this 360 drive's modified firmware which breaks down the media flag detection, (from what I think I may have possibly understood...:S) seeing as no-one has released the modified firmware. Which was probably the hardest part of the whole procedure.
In other words unless you could have hacked the 360 yourself before, you still won't be able to do it now.

I agree with glitchbit, I think Nytrix is full of it. He has shown no proof of reproducing what TheSpecialist and co. did and acts as if these links somehow will allow everyone to play backups... I don't think he has played a backup and until he posts some proof like TheSpecialist's video of a 360 with a dvd-r in it being read and the cables going straight into the tv without any hidden areas... I'll remain a skeptic.

**FrozenIpaq** · 03-19-2006, 05:04 AM

Nytrix, I just went over to my daily site of TeamXecuter and noticed that this is not your original work, and I didn't expect it to be either....

Please, do not claim work for your own like you did in this case.

For proof, here is an excert from the article:

Originally Posted by Xecuter

What is this?

It's a modified firmware of the Xbox 360 DVD-ROM drive.

As you (should) know, all Xbox 360 executables (XEX files) are signed by
Microsoft (with a private key only MS has). This means that if you try to change
anything to the XEX file, the signature will be wrong and the file will not
boot.

Now ... to protect from booting an exact 1:1 copy of a game from a DVD-+R,
microsoft gave each XEX file a 'mediaflag'. This mediaflag tells the Xbox 360
from which media (cd-r, dvd-r, dvd+r, dvd-rw, hdd, dvdxbox, dvdxbox360, ...).
Changing this mediaflag in XEX is not an option as it'll break the signature
(see above), so ... what's done in this firmware hack is 'break' the detection
of the disc.

(Pretty much) all the information you need is in these threads.

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=455.0

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=329.0

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=359.0

http://www.xbox

.net/forums/index.php?topic=258.0

From what we can tell so far is that the game image will have to be patched
too - We can smell a new feature for Qwix 2

The scene can expect a hack for all drives very soon (It's currently only
Hitachi) - you can be assured that it will be released although I don't think
modchips will be any kind of business as its a pure piracy mod - no homebrew at
all.

News-Source:

xbox

.net

Download Firmware: illegal and not released

Download Video:

here[youtube],

here[rapidshare.de],
here[xbox-scene]

I myself have been following the Specialist ever since the first mention of his hack came out (weeks ago), so I'm disappointed in seeing this from you, claiming that you have found the method..

Pure speculation on my part, this is just what I have seen so far

**Rossmac** · 03-19-2006, 05:29 AM

Uhhhh so why is this even posted in the main news section.... if he just decided to figure out how to cut and paste.

There is no discovery anyway, he is just reiterating what has already been said by TheSpecialist.

This guy is an ass, and I personally detest people like this.

/rant

**Nytrix** · 03-19-2006, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by FrozenIpaq

Nytrix, I just went over to my daily site of TeamXecuter and noticed that this is not your original work, and I didn't expect it to be either....

Please, do not claim work for your own like you did in this case.

For proof, here is an excert from the article:

I myself have been following the Specialist ever since the first mention of his hack came out (weeks ago), so I'm disappointed in seeing this from you, claiming that you have found the method..

Pure speculation on my part, this is just what I have seen so far

TO EVERYONE:

Sorry For this confusion. I did NOT come up with this hack. I recreated the hack using the instruction i provided. and what I did on my own was install the modified firmware on my hitachi drive. So YES it does work, I've tested it. And NO i did not make this hack. I'm just confirming it. Once again sorry for the confustion.

**XSAVAGE** · 03-19-2006, 06:31 AM

This is lame, Nitryx didnt do anything , wow he got it from one shot at the other day , i would have believed it if it was at least 3 days later , but he also stole the post from another forum teamxecuter.com , if he did it , release it.

**C.in-fvr3** · 03-19-2006, 06:33 AM

Come on man nytrix if u can do this then plz give us a good guide for how to do it ourselfes and/or release the modified firmware and stuff if u were able to pull this off then help us to do it as well

Frank

p.s. no the links were of no help...

**Nytrix** · 03-19-2006, 06:37 AM

I will not be releasing the modified firmware that I have created also. I'm not going to with due respect to Team Executer and the people who figured it out.
I just posted to tell everyone that i have re-created the hack using TE's tutorials.

**XSAVAGE** · 03-19-2006, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Nytrix

I will not be releasing the modified firmware that I have created also. I'm not going to with due respect to Team Executer and the people who figured it out.
I just posted to tell everyone that i have re-created the hack using TE's tutorials.

Confirmed, he doesnt have anything , he's just eating a bag of doritos and a can of mountain dew laughing at those that believe him.

**Nytrix** · 03-19-2006, 06:40 AM

lol...i like your humor. but i actually did something...i recreated the hack, recreated the firmware, and confirmed it working.

**XSAVAGE** · 03-19-2006, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by Nytrix

lol...i like your humor. but i actually did something...i recreated the hack, recreated the firmware, and confirmed it working.

You have not confirmed anything , just words , release it , people will still have to change the key to make it work, each Drive haves a unique key just like the XBox1 HDD, so releasing it will not create the destruction of the planet , seeing is believing

**Nytrix** · 03-19-2006, 06:49 AM

well..still i don't want to condone piracy..or piss of Thespecialist. But i'll consider it.

**C.in-fvr3** · 03-19-2006, 07:03 AM

Just release it man with a good guide plz what the specialist thinks is his opinion u have ur own right? then dont copy his opinion, just release + guide how i can make it work polize ^^

**eight_heads** · 03-19-2006, 07:08 AM

well i'm glad to see someone was able to recreate it......damn, too bad i have the wrong drive or i'd test it myself... anyone know if the 2 drive types are interchangeable?

**Rossmac** · 03-19-2006, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Nytrix

I will not be releasing the modified firmware that I have created also. I'm not going to with due respect to Team Executer and the people who figured it out.
I just posted to tell everyone that i have re-created the hack using TE's tutorials.

Team Xecuter has nothing to do with this hack, its simply the site you copied and pasted your entire text from.

Please Nytrix, only get involved in things you actually have one piece of knowledge about.

**vecha** · 03-19-2006, 08:59 AM

you took the post from their site and changed like two words....

**inf2k6** · 03-19-2006, 09:25 AM

You clearly have not achieved anything and should not mislead people. You obviously dont know the first thing about anything required to actually do this, assembly code or otherwise. Good job looking like an idiot.

**Toyzombie** · 03-19-2006, 09:28 AM

Its funny because someone is going to release the instructions on how to do it and that person is probably going to get all the credit. So all the

s trying to keep this protected will be a waist of time. If you discover something, freaking cool share it, if not...don’t even mention it. It's like me saying " I have done the unexpected. I have modded my Xbox 360 to play PC Games. I have released a video to prove to you all this is possible.... but i wont be releasing it because I don’t believe in piracy".... Why even freaking mention it. You will just make everyone think your full of crap.

**C.in-fvr3** · 03-19-2006, 09:49 AM

Toyzombie i totally agree with u and i cant wait for the instructions to come ^^

**glitchbit** · 03-19-2006, 08:55 PM

I'm sorry but if in those mess of links do have the intructions of "how to modify the firmware" properly and the tools to use to do it, then everyone would be doing it and there'd have been the compiled firmware hack floating around long before you posted a damn thing Nytrix.

And you have nothing to lose by posting it Nytrix, no one here I do not think, knows your true identity where as the specailist is suposedly known so if he did something he'd get a knock at the door and at any rate most people would simply use a different s/n or upload it to some anonymous site and probably even use a proxy if they are really paranoid bout it.

I have no doubt in my mind that Nytrix is full of it, to bad the community is not a mod or this thread would have been deleted.

**Lupin** · 03-20-2006, 01:04 AM

As soon as we figure out how to hook up the DVD Drive up to a PC it should be easy. Im hearing reports of having to patch each image, is this some kind of generic "Change Media Flag 'x' to 'y'" Or is each game a task upon itself? Even though i have no problems with piracy i think at 60USD a pop they are asking for it, even Cliffie B (head of Epic Games IE UT series) says he isnt suprised at the rise in piracy of video games. And his thoughts on counter acting it would be for all games to cost $20, a reasonable price to him.

**NeoGreendawg** · 03-20-2006, 03:42 AM

Nytrix as I stated in my previous post is just full of it... I think that the news post should be pulled. It's misleading.

**Mysticales** · 03-20-2006, 06:59 AM

Ok Im locking this for now. Getting way off course toward flame.. Plus this hack doesnt give out the ability to run homebrew either. Least not yet. This thread will stay for viewing, but for now, lets let this hack die out on the forums for now till more news comes out thats worthwhile and that will draw less issues. Thanks.

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